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re: Salary Cap expected to top $240 Million, some executives say $250 million is possible
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Chad has an irrational love of Taysom
we might not be 9-8 and missing the playoffs without his contributions
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:19 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Hill had 81 rushes and 33 catches last year the year before 96 and 9 how is that not part time?
Taysom Hill touches: 2022: 105 and 2023: 114 and that's not even getting into his touches as a QB and pass attempts.
Deebo Samuel 2022: 98 touches and 2023: 97 touches
you're a joke.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:50 pm to Chad504boy
You are a tard.
83 yards passing
400 rushing
291 recv
What does he earn per year? Do we owe him 16 mil 2024?
83 yards passing
400 rushing
291 recv
What does he earn per year? Do we owe him 16 mil 2024?
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:58 pm to Chad504boy
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Deebo Samuel 2022: 98 touches and 2023: 97 touches
Way to move the goal posts and bring up a random player no one mentioned
CMac who costs less on the cap and makes only 1.5M or so more than Hill had 339 and 329 touches the last 2 seasons.
So do tell how you man crush is more than a part time gimmick?
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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CMac who costs less on the cap and makes only 1.5M or so more than Hill had 339 and 329 touches the last 2 seasons.
But CMac and Hill aren't comparable. Honestly, to Chad's point, Samuel is, IMO.
I realize the point is that Hill doesn't make much less/has a bigger cap hit, but I think you'd be pretty surprised to see some cap hits from Saints players vs. better players in the league.
ETA: Derek Carr - 55Mil cap hit for 2024, currently (which is why he will be extended ) Pat Mahomes - 58Mi.
ETA2: CMac - 14.1Mil AK41 - 18.7 Mil
Just saying, we can do this with the whole roster almost. Its the way the Saints do business with the cap. Comparing players cap hits is futile.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:15 pm to SaintEB
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But CMac and Hill aren't comparable.
Of course not, yet they hit the cap and are paid pretty close to the same amount. That’s insane how can anyone defend that type of salary and cap management?
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Samuel is, IMO.
He’s a starting WR, using “touches” to compare a WR to a player that’s primarily lines up under center is stupid. Look at snaps (ie when they are on the field) and targets (how often passes are thrown to them) to see who I used more. Samuel had 679 snaps Hill 410 last year
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ETA: Derek Carr - 55Mil cap hit for 2024, currently (which is why he will be extended ) Pat Mahomes - 58Mi.
Carr and Mahomes are both starting QBs. Their caps will vary depending on which year of the contract it is. It’s not about comparing quality vs salary. The whole point is the Saints cap hit for a part time gimmick player is slightly more than the top RB in the league. That’s just asinine
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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using “touches” to compare a WR to a player that’s primarily lines up under center is stupid.
Honestly, Its all stupid. Worrying about the cap, kicking the can, comparing cap numbers, salaries, trying to guess what each team values in a player.....none of it is comparable.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:23 pm to SaintEB
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Honestly, Its all stupid. Worrying about the cap, kicking the can
How is it stupid to point out a team that has a mediocre and aging roster has very little flexibility to improve the roster because of the way they handle the cap?
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comparing cap numbers,
Just pointing out a ridiculous cap hit to show how poorly they are managing the cap.
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trying to guess what each team values in a player.
No one is really doing that
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Way to move the goal posts and bring up a random player no one mentioned
you set the goal posts of touch count meant part time gimmick status. glad i can shed light to everyone on your low iq status.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
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How is it stupid to point out a team that has a mediocre and aging roster has very little flexibility to improve the roster because of the way they handle the cap?
Talking about it, I guess is not. I tend to learn things when reading stuff on here. Getting into it with Chad tends to derail discussions though.
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Just pointing out a ridiculous cap hit to show how poorly they are managing the cap.
Poorly by who's definition? They obviously don't think that. We do, but none of us, to my knowledge, have ever ran a team to know for sure. Not to mention we are only looking at number that a website wants to report. I'm sure its more nuanced than just a raw number. It makes a discussion, but it really means nothing.
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No one is really doing that
It was just a list of stupid things to worry about.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
My bad. This was a double penetration.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:38 pm to SaintEB
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Getting into it with Chad tends to derail discussions though.
good luck buddying up with a fricking hatorade troll. i've been nothing but reasonable in my postings.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:40 pm to goatmilker
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You are a tard.
83 yards passing
400 rushing
291 recv
What does he earn per year? Do we owe him 16 mil 2024?
goat, quit trying to make this about you.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:42 pm to Chad504boy
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good luck buddying up with a fricking hatorade troll. i've been nothing but reasonable in my postings.
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glad i can shed light to everyone on your low iq status.
I rest my case. lol
It wasn't meant to be a buddying experience, just an observation.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:42 pm to SaintEB
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Comparing players cap hits is futile.
in my original post
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People throwing dumb shite like this out on the webs thinking they have some sort of fricking point are retards of the lowest variety.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:43 pm to SaintEB
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It wasn't meant to be a buddying experience, just an observation.
h town is a miserable fricking hater. the end.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:18 pm to H-Town Tiger
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They have been mediocre for 3 years with zero playoff appearances, what makes you think this strategy will suddenly change that?
For many of our fans, the day we get compliant with cap compliance is the happiest day of the year for them as a Saints fan.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:45 pm to Chad504boy
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goat, quit trying to make this about you.
Damn you got me. Talking stats and salary is very selfish of me
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:54 pm to Chad504boy
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Taysom Hill touches: 2022: 105 and 2023: 114 and that's not even getting into his touches as a QB and pass attempts.
Deebo Samuel 2022: 98 touches and 2023: 97 touches you're a joke.
Lol. These ladies are clueless man. They need to watch more football.
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