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re: Salary Cap expected to top $240 Million, some executives say $250 million is possible
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Having to restructure Carr's contract is a nuclear option that can have devastating effects down the road. If Carr were, say, 30, it might not be so bad, but he's already going to be 33 for 2024. Assuming he can remain his mediocre self, how long can he sustain that? Till he's 35? 36? He's already under contract through his age 35 season. A restructure now will almost certainly require an extension at some point, so we're pushing $70-100M into his age 36+ seasons (and some void years). Does ANYONE feel comfortable with this?
Offseason hasnt started yet. Dont get your panties are in a wad.
Saints may draft a QB. Sooner than later.
We already telegraphed that we almost took Mahomes.
The obvious move is keep Carr and draft an incumbent when given the chance. Saints already did this with Brees, and Mahomes was almost ours.
This is regular practice in the NFL.
Ex. Alex smith/mahomes, ARod/Jordan Love, Tony Romo/Dak, Wentz/Hurts.
Draft is loaded with QB’s. Very possible thst an early pick gets invested in QB. Pennix/mccarthy in second if they drop, or one of top three in first if they drop.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 6:06 pm
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:16 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yes, he hasn’t made more nor will Hill’s cap hit be bigger this year. It was always designed to to restructures this year…
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:29 pm to msstate7
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Kicking the can may not be such a bad idea if you see jumps like that
Hey Mickey!
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:12 pm to P bean
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The obvious move is keep Carr and draft an incumbent when given the chance.
So we make the young QB sit for 3-4 years, eating up his cheap rookie deal, or play the young QB while Carr has cap hits over $55M for 3 years in a row and sits the bench?
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Very possible thst an early pick gets invested in QB.
Then this makes restructuring Carr even more devastating
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:13 pm to TwoDatBait
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It was always designed to to restructures this year
When will it not be designed to restructure his deal? I think he only has 1 more year and then void years.
Is it always in the designs to extend him?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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So we make the young QB sit for 3-4 years, eating up his cheap rookie deal, or play the young QB while Carr has cap hits over $55M for 3 years in a row and sits the bench?
More like 2 years. But ARod sat for 3 years behind Favre.
Obviously we dont know, the future cant be predicted and it certainly depends on what happens.
But thats exactly how it played out with Favre/ARodgers and ARodgers/J.Love.
Love sat for 2 years (would have been 3 if Arod didnt leave) and the packers groomed their replacement.
Alex Smith/mahomes could have been a two year sit, also. Washington traded for Alex Smith, rest is history.
Its pretty common to spend a pick on a replacement. Saints almost did it with Brees/Mahomes. And Mahomes wouldve been groomed behind Drew.
Def not some insane proposal. Its common practice in the NFL.
The Packers have done it twice now with Favre to ARod/ARod to JLove. Now they have had a franchise QB for decades.
Phillip Rivers sat for 2 years behind Brees with the Chargers.
Like I said. Common practice.
Boy. For a “Mr.Knowitall” you sure dont. These are facts that any regular football fan should know.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:45 am to Proximo
Push off to the future Awesome strategy
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
When his cap hit was lower than $10 mill…. The last 3 years… Contract breakdown
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:39 am to TwoDatBait
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When his cap hit was lower than $10 mill…. The last 3 years
The reason his cap hit is larger than CMac and Kelce is kicking the can the last 3 years.
His contract only runs through 2025 (his age 35 season, with 2 void years for ages 36-37). His cap hit in 2025 is already over $15.7M. Are we going to push his $10M 2024 base salary onto that final year (with the 2 void years)? Get it to almost $20M next year? When he's 35?
Where all we can do is extend him or suffer a catastrophic dead cap hit that we can't afford? Are we going to extend him into his early 40s? That was "always the plan"?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:07 am to Proximo
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Look at this clown that doesn’t understand how we manipulate the cap
Yeah we’ve done such a masterful job
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 9:08 am
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
You just proved my point of this year being the best year to restructure… thanks! He is 33 now and giving him a new 4/5 contract will get his cap hit below $10m again… likely his last contract and no more voided years…
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:49 am to TwoDatBait
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this year being the best year to restructure
What?
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He is 33 now and giving him a new 4/5 contract will get his cap hit below $10m again
For just this year. His future cap hits will be inflated into the $20M/year range. How is that good?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then this makes restructuring Carr even more devastating
Incorrect.
Common practice.
Editing my above post Jordan Love sat for 3 years behind ARod - same amount as ARod sat behind Favre.
PRivers sat for 2.
Pretty basic man. Try to keep up some.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 7:03 am to P bean
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Jordan Love sat for 3 years behind ARod
Which was seen as a very -EV move
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same amount as ARod sat behind Favre.
Different era before the rookie wage scale.
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PRivers sat for 2.
Different era before the rookie wage scale.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 8:50 am to P bean
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Alex Smith/mahomes could have been a two year sit, also. Washington traded for Alex Smith, rest is history.
No, they shipped out Smith because they had Mahomes
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Its pretty common to spend a pick on a replacemen
Is it? How many years did CJ Stroud sit? Burrow? Herbert? B Young? Even Josh Allen who looked like a project guy coming in started by week 6 or so.
Green Bay is an exception and not very smart in the way they did it.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Herbert? B Young? Even Josh Allen
LOL. Herbert and Josh Allen were BOTH SITTING behind Tyrod Taylor.
Then Taylor got hurt.
Bryce Young needed to sit. He looked horrible.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:16 pm to P bean
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LOL. Herbert and Josh Allen were BOTH SITTING behind Tyrod Taylor
Game 1, if the plan was to sit them for a year wouldn’t they have been benched when Taylor was healthy?
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Bryce Young needed to sit. He looked horrible.
Not really relevant here to the point, you said it was common to sit QBs and implied for a year or more when that’s really the outlier. Teams routinely start rookie QBs that they draft in the first round if not from game 1 by midseason, except for GB. KC was a playoff team if they had fallen off Mahomes rookie year they may have played him sooner. As it was they started him the last game then shipped out Smith in the offseason
ETA if the Saints extend Carr, it would be a waste to take a QB before 2026 at the earliest
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Then this makes restructuring Carr even more devastating
What ever plan includes Carr taking more snaps in New Orleans is the plan I'm voting against. Get that bum outta nola asap
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:52 pm to High Life
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What ever plan includes Carr taking more snaps in New Orleans
Restructuring
If we don't restructure, it's a 3/100 that we can deal with after 2025
If we restructure him, it's almost a guarantee he sticks around for 2026 and 2027 at the least
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
If we restructure that bum, I am officially a Texans fan until Derek is gone.
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