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re: Saints Victim Complex persists
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:03 am to Larry Gooseman
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:03 am to Larry Gooseman
Last year was justified - that call was the worst I've ever seen. So bad that it leaves only conspiracy theories to explain. "Not seeing it" just never held water. It was egregious and should have been called and absolutely changed the outcome of the game. I totally get thinking the NFL hates us after that, cause i can think of a dozen teams that receive fairer officiating and they all have new stadiums and/or marketing benefits to winning. In a world of profits where money makes the rules, i could see why the hat tips a certain direction.
This year - After we lost that bye week, it was over. This team was so injured it pained me to see them play.
Brees, for whatever reason, was terrible. If you have to resort to QB#2 to move the ball and keep putting QB#1 back in after turnovers and negative gains....you will lose every single time. We could have signed a random QB off the street and had better stats.
O-Line might as well not have been on the field. We would have been better to use reserve players not injured and plugged them in.
Thomas was double teamed the entire game. No one else could get open or catch.
Lattimore looked hurt. Jenkins was lost. Williams was suffering from PTSD.
Kamara doesn't spin out of tackles anymore. Not sure what happened to the field vision he seemed to have rookie/sophomore years.
YES, anytime we did get a significant gain, or turnover it was called back, but justifiably. And yes we did seem to have no calls (most memorably the head target on Kamara) but the refs easily could have called more..and we got away with stuff to. That TD in overtime was a receiver pushing off from defensive pass interference, i.e. real Football.
Just ranting into the void - but to sum up, we played like crap and deserved to lose. Match any deal Taysom gets. Sign Deonte Harris to long term contract. Promote Brees to the legends of the game squad.
This year - After we lost that bye week, it was over. This team was so injured it pained me to see them play.
Brees, for whatever reason, was terrible. If you have to resort to QB#2 to move the ball and keep putting QB#1 back in after turnovers and negative gains....you will lose every single time. We could have signed a random QB off the street and had better stats.
O-Line might as well not have been on the field. We would have been better to use reserve players not injured and plugged them in.
Thomas was double teamed the entire game. No one else could get open or catch.
Lattimore looked hurt. Jenkins was lost. Williams was suffering from PTSD.
Kamara doesn't spin out of tackles anymore. Not sure what happened to the field vision he seemed to have rookie/sophomore years.
YES, anytime we did get a significant gain, or turnover it was called back, but justifiably. And yes we did seem to have no calls (most memorably the head target on Kamara) but the refs easily could have called more..and we got away with stuff to. That TD in overtime was a receiver pushing off from defensive pass interference, i.e. real Football.
Just ranting into the void - but to sum up, we played like crap and deserved to lose. Match any deal Taysom gets. Sign Deonte Harris to long term contract. Promote Brees to the legends of the game squad.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:04 am to Thracken13
Thracken, I’m sure anecdotal evidence exists for any/every type of nfl penalty on every team.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:06 am to Larry Gooseman
Saints fans sure are quick to point the finger, especially for a team who won a Super Bowl on the heels of Bountygate
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:16 am to Larry Gooseman
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that is routine scuffling that happens on every single downfield play. Sorry.
No it's not. The routine scuffling happens before that. This was a clear push off with resulting separation that allowed him open access to catch the ball.
What is routine though is the league's history of not calling these. OPI's are rarely called when they ought to be, and that is a problem that is not discussed often enough. Really not much at all. The league has been designed over the past 2 decades to favor the offense and create a high scoring game, so there is a bias to only look at the defenders when contesting catches.
As far as this goes yesterday, that play is not anywhere close to as egregious as last year's no call. This no call of OPI is quite standard unfortunately. The truth is the Saints were beaten in the trenches yesterday and should not have won that game. We eventually caught a little fire in the 4th quarter, but us coming out with the victory would've been more of the Vikings losing than us winning. They completely outplayed us.
This is why I am not upset with the lack of call. Williams (was it him?) should never have let the WR get past him and catch the ball inside the 5. Bad play dictated this loss, not that final one. This differs from the Rams last year as well, since we were winning and controlling until the Rams worked their way back into the game. We played well and then had the game stolen from us by a terrible no call, and I believe intentional one. These two games simply can not be compared.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:17 am to Larry Gooseman
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Thracken, I’m sure anecdotal evidence exists for any/every type of nfl penalty on every team.
That's the fricking point
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:18 am to LaTexSaint
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now lets cheer for former Saint Ingram to get a ring!
the NFL
u go support that garbage like a clown
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 10:19 am
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