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Saints Training Camp: Previewing the Battles at Safety

Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:37 pm
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:37 pm
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The New Orleans Saints entered the 2022 season facing the daunting task of replacing their top three safeties from the previous two years. Veteran Malcolm Jenkins retired, Marcus Williams had moved on in free agency, and Chauncey Gardner-Johnson was traded during training camp in a contract dispute.
The Saints countered those losses with a couple of splashy free-agent additions. New Orleans native and former LSU star Tyrann Mathieu was brought home. The playmaking Marcus Maye was signed away from the Jets. Veteran Daniel Sorensen was also added to join versatile P.J. Williams and Justin Evans as depth.

New Orleans ranked second against the pass defensively in 2022. This despite a 10-game injury absence of elite CB Marshon Lattimore. However, the team's safeties did very little to earn that lofty ranking.

Maye missed seven games with injuries and made very little impact on the field. Sorensen, despite two interceptions, was a coverage liability, as was Evans. Mathieu played much closer to expectations down the stretch, but struggled mightily early in the year.

The Saints allowed P.J. Williams, Sorensen, and Evans to hit the free-agent market this offseason. Maye and Mathieu return, but a bevy of new faces were added as depth. Here's a look at the team’s safety position as they prepare for the official start of training camp next week.
Saints Training Camp Roster - Safety

Tyrann Mathieu
• Marcus Maye
• Lonnie Johnson
• Jordan Howden*
• Johnathan Abram
• Smoke Monday
• J.T. Gray
• Ugo Amadi
(* = Rookie)Mathieu had a horrible start with the Saints that saw him consistently out of position for tackles and in coverage. He'd rebound nicely to lead the team with three interceptions, broke up eight passes, forced or recovered two fumbles, and allowed 62.7% completion rate in man coverage. He also finished second on the defense with a career-high 91 tackles, which included three for loss and a team-high 64 solo stops.

Capable of being a difference maker in the tackle box, as a slot corner, or in deep support, expect Mathieu to have a much better second year with New Orleans. Now 31, Mathieu has always had elite instincts. With the comfort of a second year in the defense, we should see many more big plays from the 31-year-old Mathieu.

The Saints certainly hope that Maye hits the same sort of level that we saw from Mathieu to end last season. After six interceptions and 23 passes broken up in his first 53 games with the Jets, Maye failed to pick off a pass and broke up just two with the Saints. A natural free safety with excellent range, a rebound from Maye wound allow the defense to use Mathieu in more creative ways.

Lonnie Johnson was signed in free agency and will get the first crack to assume the roles filled by Chauncey Gardner-Johnson and P.J. Williams. Johnson has good size and will be used primarily in the slot.

Jordan Howden was drafted in the fifth round out of Minnesota and should be Johnson's primary competition for slot safety. Howden showed terrific versatility in college. We'll also see him working as deep support throughout the preseason.

Abram has been somewhat of a disappointment as a 2019 first-round choice by the Raiders. A liability in coverage, Abram is a hard hitter who can be a factor around the line of scrimmage and could be an asset in two-deep alignments. Looking to revitalize his career, Abram brings many of the same rugged playing style that the Saints enjoyeQuindarius ''Smoke'' Monday is a fan favorite and could be a darkhorse contributor. An undrafted rookie in 2022, he was sidelined for the year with an injury in training camp after a promising start. A fierce competitor always looking for the big play, Monday must show better reactive instincts. If the playmaking skills that he showed at Auburn in college convert to the pros, Monday has more than enough ability to grab a roster spot.

Gray is seldom used in the defense. However, he's one of the NFL's top special teams players. Howden and Monday will have to play well on special teams to secure their spots, but Gray will be difficult to supplant from the roster. One candidate could be Amadi, who comes in with a similar special teams resume' via free agency.

Expect the Saints keep at least five safeties and as many as six on their 53-man roster to enter the year. Mathieu and Maye are locks. Johnson and Howden should be considered early favorites because of their versatility, but this is a position that will be hotly contested throughout preseason.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:16 pm to
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. A natural free safety with excellent range, a rebound from Maye wound allow the defense to use Mathieu in more creative ways.


This can really help in short area coverage and in TO's letting TM be himself. I hope Maye can bounce back but also that he has a short leash if he doesn't. If a capable backup FS doesn't show up in camp I hope we do what needs to be done and trade for one or hope a good one is cut.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 3:43 pm to
This is our weakest position IMHO. Somebody like Howden or Monday needs to step up because Maye is average at best and Mathieu is a shell of a shell of a shadow of himself.

Still can’t believe we resigned Peat and let Vonn Bell walk.
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 3:47 pm to
We really need a good backup coverage safety to help with depth.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 3:49 pm to
They should move Adebo to FS.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 3:50 pm to
Mathieu came on strong down the stretch once he cleaned up his tackling. He also quietly had arguably his best season in coverage. Everybody remembers those whiffs early on though. I do too.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:03 pm to
Is he the one that said FO was calling him a safety and he was "I don't know I'm a CB"?
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:18 pm to
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The playmaking Marcus Maye


Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8813 posts
Posted on 7/19/23 at 7:38 pm to
Bowden is going to end up being one of those mid round gems the Saints seem to hit on one almost everything year. I watched a couple games Minnesota played and he really stood out. I think he ends up being a starter on our defense. Maybe not this season but it won’t be long.
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 8:15 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 8:59 pm to
Am I delusional for thinking Smoke Monday could be a real factor this year if he’s healthy.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/19/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Am I delusional for thinking Smoke Monday could be a real factor this year if he’s healthy.


No but we’re clueless about his returning health
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