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re: Saints first round pick 2020
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:39 am to purplepylon
Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:39 am to purplepylon
Why do we need another WR? We have MT13, Sanders, TreQuan, Ginn, Cook and AK41. How many targets do we expect a rookie to get?
LBer is an immediate need and OL is the next biggest need IMO. WR is a luxury, and a sexy pick because it’s a skill position, but it’s not a need. Especially if we can get a guy in the later round.
LBer is an immediate need and OL is the next biggest need IMO. WR is a luxury, and a sexy pick because it’s a skill position, but it’s not a need. Especially if we can get a guy in the later round.
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:00 am to Suntiger
I’m not saying we need a WR in the first, but Ginn is not on the team. He’s still a FA.
But I agree, we need a linebacker.
But I agree, we need a linebacker.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:09 am to Suntiger
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Why do we need another WR? We have MT13, Sanders, TreQuan, Ginn, Cook and AK41. How many targets do we expect a rookie to get? LBer is an immediate need and OL is the next biggest need IMO. WR is a luxury, and a sexy pick because it’s a skill position, but it’s not a need. Especially if we can get a guy in the later round
Ginn is not on the team so TQS is a starter because we run 3 wr all the time. Cook is a te. Sanders is a 33 year old receiver who’s last 1000 yard year was 4 years ago. How is wr not the biggest need??
We have 3 legitimate starters at linebacker at a position that plays most of the games only using two. With a solid 4th linebacker in Robertson.
We have our entire starting oline coming back with a starting quality guard as the 6th o lineman. How is that a bigger need when TQS is not starter quality but will be starting and the other receiver is old???
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:18 am to Suntiger
It is about BPA. We don’t really have any needs but we have a few wants for sure. Sanders and Cooks are both older and will only be on the roster probably 2 years tops. Cooks also has injury concerns. AK is a running back and chances are we won’t be able to pay him after this year. Tre’ Quan is an average depth receiver. There is hope that he can be more productive but it hasn’t been seen with the exception of a couple games his rookie year.
Ideally linebacker would be our biggest want but it isn’t a need. We have Anzalone, Davis, and Kiko. Yes Anzalone is injury prone so Ideally this is the position to fill but it isn’t a need.
We are running with the same offensive line we ran last year so we are fine there but wouldn’t be opposed to adding someone to replace Armstead, Warford, and/or Easton in the future.
Back to wide receivers. Brees needs weapons that can get open. We have struggled against good defenses the last two years bc of that. Drew doesn’t have the arm strength he used to in order to stretch the field and he can’t take off and run with it. He is an amazing qb but has limitations at this stage in his career. Not a knock but reality. With that being said we need certain types of receivers that would work well with Brees capabilities such as J Jefferson. Another guy to watch maybe in the third is Van Jefferson. These guys are also typically more capable of playing right away.
I’m not saying wide receiver is the pick but I’m not against it. As far as next year our team has no real “needs” but there is some wants and receiver class is loaded with talent for the first two rounds.
Ideally linebacker would be our biggest want but it isn’t a need. We have Anzalone, Davis, and Kiko. Yes Anzalone is injury prone so Ideally this is the position to fill but it isn’t a need.
We are running with the same offensive line we ran last year so we are fine there but wouldn’t be opposed to adding someone to replace Armstead, Warford, and/or Easton in the future.
Back to wide receivers. Brees needs weapons that can get open. We have struggled against good defenses the last two years bc of that. Drew doesn’t have the arm strength he used to in order to stretch the field and he can’t take off and run with it. He is an amazing qb but has limitations at this stage in his career. Not a knock but reality. With that being said we need certain types of receivers that would work well with Brees capabilities such as J Jefferson. Another guy to watch maybe in the third is Van Jefferson. These guys are also typically more capable of playing right away.
I’m not saying wide receiver is the pick but I’m not against it. As far as next year our team has no real “needs” but there is some wants and receiver class is loaded with talent for the first two rounds.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:20 am to jkylejohnson
Jeff Gladney
Austin Jackson
Justin Jones
YETUR GROSS-MATOS
Jordan Love
There are first round WRs all the way through pick 60 or so, tho.
Austin Jackson
Justin Jones
YETUR GROSS-MATOS
Jordan Love
There are first round WRs all the way through pick 60 or so, tho.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:21 am to Townedrunkard
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We have 3 legitimate starters at linebacker at a position that plays most of the games only using two. With a solid 4th linebacker in Robertson.
Really good point here! We can run CGJ as a box safety with Jenkins and Marcus Williams playing deep.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:31 am to Lester Earl
people no one are talking about we should watch for:
Noah Igbinoghene, CB Auburn
Josh Uche, edge Michigan
Marlon Davidson, DL Aub
could they potentially take a RB at 24? Would be out of character for this regime, but...
Swift, Dobbins, Taylor????
CEH potentially?
No 2nd Rd pick could throw a wrench into things.
Noah Igbinoghene, CB Auburn
Josh Uche, edge Michigan
Marlon Davidson, DL Aub
could they potentially take a RB at 24? Would be out of character for this regime, but...
Swift, Dobbins, Taylor????
CEH potentially? No 2nd Rd pick could throw a wrench into things.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:34 am to PTinBR
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Diggs
Hard Pass. Ja'Marr exposed him.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:42 am to bayou85
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Hard Pass. Ja'Marr exposed him.
Ja’Marr exposes everyone lol. However I agree, the only corner I really like in the first round is Okudah and Henderson. I know Okudah will he gone and Henderson probably will too
Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:43 am to bayou85
yap, the best way to evaluate a player is over 4 snaps against the best WR in CFB.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:02 am to wildcat81tiger86
TCU alum here that's watched every collegiate snap of Gladney. Good player. Good size and even better length for a corner. Plays with a "dog" mentality and doesn't back down. Can turn and flip his hips to run with anyone. Measured up well with various types of receivers (Mims, Lamb, Collin Johnson). Physical in run support. Think a team is getting a really good player that can contribute early on
Knocks- don't think he has much use as a slot corner. Will have to play on the outside.
Knocks- don't think he has much use as a slot corner. Will have to play on the outside.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:10 am to Mpd31
Would much rather take an OL that has a chance to step in and compete at guard at 24 and then get Van Jefferson in the 3rd, as opposed to talking ourselves into Shevault or Higgins at 24 and getting an OL that may not make the team later on. It's a stupid deep group of receivers. Don't reach
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:35 pm to BenDover78
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Would much rather take an OL that has a chance to step in and compete at guard at 24
Compete at guard with who?
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:41 pm to Suntiger
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Why do we need another WR? We have MT13, Sanders, TreQuan, Ginn, Cook and AK41. How many targets do we expect a rookie to get?
TreQuan and Ginn are not good players at this point. A championship caliber team should not be content with starting one of those two guys. If we feel that we can upgrade at WR3 in round 1 we absolutely should do that.
Plus Sanders, Ginn, and Cook are all old. Getting someone who can be a long term solution to the WR corps is important.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:48 pm to Lester Earl
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Compete at guard with who?
We are stuck with Peat for awhile but Warford and Easton are probably gone after this season due to his signing. Warford is pretty solid but has taken a step back last year. Armstead May be a cap casualty in the next 2 years as well. Will need to find cheaper replacements.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:50 pm to Mpd31
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We are stuck with Peat for awhile but Warford and Easton are probably gone after this season due to his signing. Warford is pretty solid but has taken a step back last year. Armstead May be a cap casualty in the next 2 years as well. Will need to find cheaper replacements.
Armstead and Peat have had injury issues in the past. You can never have enough good linemen
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:54 pm to Mpd31
This is a bad draft for interior lineman.
On top of that if you bring in a guy to compete with them, you’ve made some mistakes financially.
Offensive tackle I understand. At least it’s a premium position, and the draft is loaded there.
On top of that if you bring in a guy to compete with them, you’ve made some mistakes financially.
Offensive tackle I understand. At least it’s a premium position, and the draft is loaded there.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:25 pm to Lester Earl
I think we did make some mistakes financially in regards to the Peat signing. However that isn’t the guy that would be replaced. Easton can be cut with little to no penalty and save cap. Warford’s contract expires after this year. It is a weak draft for interior offensive lineman but interior guys typically don’t go that early anyway unless you got a freak like Quentin Nelson.
It wouldn’t be crazy for us to draft a guy like Cesar Ruiz with this pick. A guy that has risen to the end of the first round and early 2nd. Value depends on the teams projection of the player. In hindsight, Erik McCoy was worth a first round pick and nobody would be questioning a team if they had picked him in the first after the way he played last season. Luckily, we stole him in the second.
It wouldn’t be crazy for us to draft a guy like Cesar Ruiz with this pick. A guy that has risen to the end of the first round and early 2nd. Value depends on the teams projection of the player. In hindsight, Erik McCoy was worth a first round pick and nobody would be questioning a team if they had picked him in the first after the way he played last season. Luckily, we stole him in the second.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:29 pm to jkylejohnson
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The most intriguing QB in the 2020 class, Utah State's Jordan Love, has been busy.
He's connected with the Dolphins, Packers, Colts, Chargers, Colts, Raiders and Saints in advance of the draft later next month.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:03 pm to Lester Earl
Peat, who you and many others on this board bitch about 10 hours a day, or Warford, who experienced a serious decline in performance.
Ram got picked at 31 and everyone thought it was illogical, then Strief went down 10 mins into week 1 and Ram saved our season. Saints can never have enough OL help
Ram got picked at 31 and everyone thought it was illogical, then Strief went down 10 mins into week 1 and Ram saved our season. Saints can never have enough OL help
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