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re: Saints Begin Cap Moves - Marcus Maye Edition

Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 1:45 pm to
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I don't remember anyone saying that last year with him or Honey Badger.

There were some with reservations, but it's not really about calling out potential hindsight bias.

For 2023 we know Maye/Mathieu are bad and expensive, but the problem is that we can't take the lick due to constant stream of dead money and we're going to just compound that situation by creating more untenable contracts and putative dead money. Like I said earlier, this is just like the Taysom Hill contract.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13707 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:02 pm to
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potential to become Taysom Hill-like contract albatrosses



That would be an upgrade to the way they're playing now
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:10 pm to
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marcus williams' biggest asset to the saints was his ability to play single high deep safety.


Pittsburgh knows. Thats all he does for them as well. He's good at it though.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21273 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:14 pm to
Insane - washed up and getting $14 million to hang out. Professional sports are out of control.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481226 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:16 pm to
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That would be an upgrade to the way they're playing now

I'm not talking about the players; just the contracts. We can't really do anything except extend Taysom, at this point. His cap hit is too big to handle being so far above the cap, so we have to restructure, pushing that money to later years and making his future hits even more impactful. We're doing the same thing with Maye and we likely will do it with Mathieu and Cam. This is in addition to big conversions from Lattimore and Ramczyk (deferring 2 more major hits down the road like we did last year).
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:17 pm to
Like or hate Sean Payton we all know who ran that organization while he was here. It sure as shite wasn't ML. Evidence: Look how he ran the team before Payton and now. The only thing Payton didn't do was contracts he'd pretty much tell ML who he wanted and ML would frick that up too.
This post was edited on 2/15/23 at 2:18 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63699 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 2:51 pm to
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That's the problem. I do not think it would have saved much, if any, capwise to cut him given the structure of his deal.



It would save for 2 years from now. That's what the priority should be.

This move is a sign that the Saints aren't ready to do what it takes to take the pain now, for the benefit later. It's a sign that the front office doesn't have a plan beyond this year.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8813 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 6:51 pm to
Really wasted money on Mathieu and Maye. We need to get younger and cheaper there. We could have had CGJ and Vonn Bell as our safeties for years but then fricked that up. Now a Khai Harley is going to be pulling some late nights to get us under the cap.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6615 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 7:24 pm to
We’re going to suck well into the 2030s.
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 2/15/23 at 8:35 pm to
If you really want to clean up the cap, cut Loomis, doesn't save money now on the cap but no more of his contracts
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