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re: RIP Will Smith

Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:59 am to
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:59 am to
You can see his feet on the pavement in the pictures from the crime scene that were on nola.com or times pic
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Posted by Purpleye
Westworld
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:13 pm to
We can only hope the truth comes out.

Fact: Hayes was following Smith, and says he called 911. Why? Was there an incident. If so why ram Smiths vehicle. He called 911. He's tailing the car. Write down the license # and wait for NOPD. Back off.

He took matters into his own hands. Nothing else matters. He's a murderer.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:20 pm to
Wife's testimony will be key in threats made by shooter before will retreated to vehicle for possible gun
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:23 pm to
And also, I'm sure cops did diligence in finding out what Mrs. Smith side of story was prior to booking Hayes w 2nd degree murder
Posted by Purpleye
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:38 pm to
None of that should matter. Hayes the primary aggressor via assault by car.
Posted by NoHairDontCare
Ft. Worth, TX
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:44 pm to
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Eyewitness makes it seem like Will Smith was going back into the SUV to grab a gun. Hence why in some pictures you can see Smiths feet on the ground leaned over into the driver seat.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Hayes the primary aggressor via assault by car.



That could certainly be an argument.

Also, you can't use stand your ground if you are involved in "unlawful activity".

If he intentionally rear-ended Smith's vehicle, he would be engaged in "unlawful activity". One could argue.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 12:54 pm to
couldnt understand much of what the first guy was saying but this is best I could gather

quote:

starts freaking out on this guy like im gonna fight you.

this guy was like get out of the car I got a gun.

then other guy says frick you I got one to and he grabs a gun then shoots him in the back.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:00 pm to
fricking murder. frick you hayes. Hayes was going ape shite on smith saying i'm going to fight you etc.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Eyewitness makes it seem like Will Smith was going back into the SUV to grab a gun.


the witness can speculate that will smith was going to get a gun, but unless he saw him with a gun in his hand, his speculation is not fact.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:07 pm to
quote:


the witness can speculate that will smith was going to get a gun
witness wasn't speculating that, he was saying what will said and was doing and how he got shot.
Posted by pussywillows
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:13 pm to
i was just commenting on what a previous poster said regarding the witness' comments.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:28 pm to
The witness was speculating that Smith was reaching for a gun. Saying something and actually doing something are not the same.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

The witness was speculating that Smith was reaching for a gun


No he wasn't. he said what smith said, what shooter said and what shooter did.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

he witness was speculating that Smith was reaching for a gun. Saying something and actually doing something are not the same.


the witness said both men had said they had guns.

Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 2:39 pm to
People on Facebook are saying that Will was going back to the car to get a gun. This is why Fuller is trying to get the aggressor stuff out there. The question they are posing is do you shoot or do u flee? He had to have the gun on him already. What made will go back to his truck. Was he in fear?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

he was saying what will said and was doing and how he got shot


Are you still going to assert this if no gun was/is found in Smith's car? As we said, a witness saying that Smith was actually reaching for a gun without seeing Smith with a gun is pure speculation.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47268 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Are you still going to assert this if no gun was/is found in Smith's car? As we said, a witness saying that Smith was actually reaching for a gun without seeing Smith with a gun is pure speculation.


the witness said smith said he had a gun.

people get shot all the time just for gesturing like they have a weapon. ask the police about it.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:06 pm to
are you a fricking idiot or what? the words will reaching for a gun was never fricking spoken by the witness in that video.
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