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re: Report: Saints have met 'extensively' with Tennessee QB prospect Hendon Hooker
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:53 am to Broken Ear Glen
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:53 am to Broken Ear Glen
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Let's hope not. The dude is 25 and put up numbers against dudes 20 yr old or less. GTFO with this dude he's a fricking bum.
Bro, Hooker is a legit prospect. If he was 22 he is a first rounder no question. Hooker has size and athleticism, and a very strong arm. He could be a Daniel Jones type player very easily. And a poor man's Justin Herbert if he improves quickly.
Go watch the tape from the past two seasons of Hooker at Tennessee. He is legit, he is just old and coming off an injury. He lit up Bama twice. Hooker could be a great pick for us.
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:18 pm to msstate7
Bold Prediction (or not so bold prediction) - Hendon will be on a practice squad in 4 years.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:21 pm to msstate7
Google his name and multiple articles pop up that he has met "extensively" with the Giants, Raiders, Cowboys, Panters, Titans, Seahawks, and the Saints.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:50 pm to Jaydeaux
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And to think someone will draft Richardson before Hooker. For all the money they have NFL GM’s don’t all have any common sense
I mean, Richardson is more likely to succeed in the NFL than Hooker. Lighting it up in college isn’t really the first thing scouts look at.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 2:59 pm to paulbeasy
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He could be a Daniel Jones type player very easily
Is this supposed to be a good thing?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:03 pm to saintsfan22
I mean, look. QB drafting is a crap shoot, but its gotta be done. What would you rather take at 29 that will help the team right now, other than Hooker that has a chance to be a good QB? If he isn't there, its a moot point, but they have to start somewhere. Would you rather take him at 29 and he turns out to be Trubisky or would you rather trade up to 6 and take someone that turns into Trubisky?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:04 pm to paulbeasy
quote:Jones is only like 6 mos older than Hooker
He could be a Daniel Jones type player very easily
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:05 pm to paulbeasy
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Go watch the tape from the past two seasons of Hooker at Tennessee. He is legit, he is just old and coming off an injury. He lit up Bama twice. Hooker could be a great pick for us.
Johnny Manziel lit up Bama. Scouts aren’t looking at stats to see how good someone will be in the NFL. How is the arm? What kind of offense did they play in? Can they make off-platform throws, out of structure plays?
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Bro, Hooker is a legit prospect. If he was 22 he is a first rounder no question. Hooker has size and athleticism, and a very strong arm. He could be a Daniel Jones type player very easily. And a poor man's Justin Herbert if he improves quickly.
Jesus Christ!
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:08 pm to Broken Ear Glen
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Those 20 year olds have not peaked and are drafted as "prospects" based on what they could be - not what they are right now. Scouts have to project where they will be in 2-4 years physically and mentally.
I respect your opinion, man, but this just isn’t true. Looking at several mock drafts there are on average 5 defensive players from the SEC projected to go in the first round this year. There’s no 2-4 year projections going on here. The guys are expected to contribute heavily from day 1.
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Hooker is already there. It's the exact reason 18 and 19 year olds get drafted high in the NBA vs the proven college juniors and seniors. Thresholds of when prospects produce are a real thing. Hooker was a nobody for his entire college career until he got to TEN. Given that profile, the likelihood of him ever becoming an above avg NFL starter is probably less than 5%.
So Joe Burrow did shite for 2.5 years of his college career. But his money year was pretty damned impressive and translated well to the NFL I’d say. Joe is a unicorn, I know. But you can’t just toss Hooker’s production when he took a huge step up in competition.
In TN for 2 seasons he put up:
*56 TDs
*5 INTS
*70% COMP PCT
*6,000 passing yards
*10 yds/comp
*185 pass rtg
*270 rushes for 1,050 yds and 10 YDS
I have no idea how Hooker will do in the NFL. The fact he is 25 has absolutely no relevance to me. You have to admit he has been a dominant QB against the best competition in college football. It’s not a fluke. He’s an interesting prospect to me. I think without his injury he’s a top round pick. And I could see him being that still based on pre-draft activities.
I’d like to see the Saints have a shot at him in the 2nd round. No problem with that pick at all.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:22 pm to SaintEB
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What would you rather take at 29 that will help the team right now, other than Hooker that has a chance to be a good QB? I
Taking Hooker 3 rounds too early at 29 would be ATROCIOUS
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:23 pm to saintsfan22
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Taking Hooker 3 rounds too early at 29 would be ATROCIOUS
Why?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:24 pm to SaintEB
Because we'd be reaching by 3 rounds on an injured 25 yr old.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:28 pm to saintsfan22
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Because we'd be reaching by 3 rounds on an injured 25 yr old.
Would it be a reach if he turned out to be a Lamar Jackson type of first 4 years?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:33 pm to SaintEB
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Would it be a reach if he turned out to be a Lamar Jackson type of first 4 years?
No but I do not believe that he will come anywhere close to that.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:46 pm to saintsfan22
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No but I do not believe that he will come anywhere close to that.
That's fair. But why do you think this? So many teams miss on prospects. Hell, there were 9 teams that didn't take Mahomes. Josh Allen was shite on as just a big arm because his college completion percentage and they didn't play anyone good. We have to take a chance somewhere. The Cardinals took Rosen then Murray. Neither will probably amount to much.
My point. Is there a player that will help the Saints win, long term, in 2023 at #29, for sure? Probably not. Why not take a shot at a pretty good college QB that played some big games for a chance to change your fortune around? Missing on him at 29 doesn't set the franchise back for years like trading assets to move down to 5 or 6 and missing.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:50 pm to SaintEB
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My point. Is there a player that will help the Saints win, long term, in 2023 at #29, for sure? Probably not. Why not take a shot at a pretty good college QB that played some big games for a chance to change your fortune around? Missing on him at 29 doesn't set the franchise back for years like trading assets to move down to 5 or 6 and missing.
Even if you believe this why would you take him at 29 when you can get him later?
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:58 pm to saintsfan22
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Even if you believe this why would you take him at 29 when you can get him later?
Well, if I knew for a fact that I could get him later, then of course, I wait. But generally, teams reach for QBs. Sometimes, it works. Is there a better QB prospect than Hooker that is supposed to be there at 29? At 40? Is your evaluation of him being a late round prospect because talking heads on TV told you so?
I'm not advocating for them taking him at all, much less at 29, but I would not be upset at them doing so.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:07 pm to SaintEB
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But generally, teams reach for QBs.
They reach on QB high in the draft not the whole draft.
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Is your evaluation of him being a late round prospect because talking heads on TV told you so?
It's based on being 25, injured, and he's likely to have to "redshirt" until he's 26.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:20 pm to saintsfan22
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They reach on QB high in the draft not the whole draft.
That's just not the case. A projected 4th goes in the 2nd. A undrafted projection goes in the 5th. On and on as I have seen over the years.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 4:27 pm to goatmilker
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That's just not the case. A projected 4th goes in the 2nd. A undrafted projection goes in the 5th. On and on as I have seen over the years.
Well no. There's no official projection so teams will take a player where they want not where they're projected by draftniks. The Saints taking Rick Leonard in the 4th when media projections had him as undrafted didn't mean teams reach for OT, it meant the Saint had him graded differently(and wrong).
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