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Remembering the fights about Shough and Vele’s age

Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:19 pm to
no no the injury fight for shough

what a bunch of tards

okay also Vele looks like a fricking weapon by the way. wasted pick!!! who was it that kept saying that? the achane guy
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:20 pm to
Shough’s was a huge discussion point as well. Muh 7 years in college he’ll be xxx after his rookie contract roarrrrr
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:23 pm to
fair. I was thinking the injury fight was even more stupid but maybe being mad that he's older and had more experience / knowledge takes it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:24 pm to
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Shough’s was a huge discussion point as well.

You're leaving out the biggest variable in that discussion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:25 pm to
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being mad that he's older and had more experience

He didn't have that many starts under his belt
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:26 pm to
Experience in college football and being around the coaches matters, don't need actual starts to learn how to play the position although it helps
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:26 pm to
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You're leaving out the biggest variable in that discussion.


His greatness is understood now. Didn’t think I had to repeat it. You were one of the main frick faces not shutting up too. fricking idiot like always. Only come here to piss and moan on something
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:27 pm to
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Experience in college football and being around the coaches matters, don't need actual starts to learn how to play the position although it helps

The data clearly says starts matter and years in college doesn't
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:27 pm to
I was cheering when we drafted this dude and even after all this evidence SFP is still shitting on him in this thread

crazy
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:28 pm to
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The data clearly says starts matter and years in college doesn't




frick off SFP
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 5:29 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:28 pm to
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His greatness is understood now. Didn’t think I had to repeat it. You were one of the main frick faces not shutting up too. fricking idiot like always. Only come here to piss and moan on something

In all of that weird melt, you are still leaving out the most important variable in the discussion had at that time.

We had a HIGHLY unusual series of events occur between the draft and week 1 last year.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:29 pm to
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SFP is still shitting on him in this thread


The frick?

I haven't said anything negative about him ITT
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:30 pm to
The data suggests you don’t know shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:30 pm to
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The data suggests you don’t know shite.

Now you're conflating discussions
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:31 pm to
the Vele melt was dumber. We gave up a 4th. Boo hoo
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:33 pm to
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the Vele melt was dumber. We gave up a 4th. Boo hoo


Yea I mean we literally had the benefit of watching him prove himself his rookie year and knew exactly what we would be getting at an extremely dire position
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:34 pm to
The issue with the Vele trade is if we're not a contender by 2027 he didn't really provide any value to the franchise and the 4th, even though it was a low %, could have. Vele has very low long-term value. When his rookie deal is up he'll be 30 or 31 and we can't justify extending him.

Lots of people are riding emotions now over a win and forgetting we're still rebuilding with a ton of holes and are a long way from title contention. That's what typical fandom does, but it doesn't change the underlying valuation considerations.
This post was edited on 9/20/26 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:36 pm to
we should've won last week and we did win this week with Vele making huge catches. he was worth every ounce of that pick and will deserve a contract from us if he stays healthy
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/26 at 5:37 pm to
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and will deserve a contract from us if he stays healthy


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