Remembering that a 1st next year is equivalent to a 2nd this year

I don't know what to say

That may be correct for most cases but that is not always true and that’s not how teams view that shite.

That sounds like some Democrat math. I mean it isn't like you are trading with the LA Rams that had injuries and stuff.

Step one: Is your trade partner a potential playoff team in 2023? If the answer is NO, then you are already looking at 1-18.

Step two: Did they overachieve in 2023? There are some teams that I would bet on being worse based on teams around them. So if the Rams and Zona are remotely better then Seattle will be worse.

Step three: Also am I making the playoffs. Probably No. So I am also picking between 10-18.

So I have thought the play all along is to take (2) mid round picks and move up and that still might not be enough. You might be trading the 12th and 16th and a 4th round to move up to 3rd or 4th in the 1st round.

It’s an unknown and while it may payoff like Miami getting a top 4 pick from the Texans, the point is you know what you are getting this year, and it is unknown the following year. You know what and who is available this year. Philly didn’t just deal firsts last year. They got the Saints First and more to account for the lower value of a pick in next years draft.

That’s why I think a high 2nd this year plus a first next year is reasonable return and price for both sides. It is essentially two 2nd founders.

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Reading from a lot of people about compensation, there seems to be the misunderstanding that a first next year is equal to a first this year in a trade.

This is not true. It is generally accepted that a future pick is worth a round lower if it is in a later year. So a first next year is basically a second.

This should be accounted for when evaluating the value of these trade possibilities.

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This is 100% true, fwiw.

That doesn't mean that a pick next year couldn't end up being worth more than a pick this year. But, from a value standpoint, that's how picks are viewed and for good reason.

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Reading from a lot of people about compensation, there seems to be the misunderstanding that a first next year is equal to a first this year in a trade.

This is not true. It is generally accepted that a future pick is worth a round lower if it is in a later year. So a first next year is basically a second.

This should be accounted for when evaluating the value of these trade possibilities.

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I could care less about a point value for a pick.

a 1st round pick in 2024 IS a first round pick in 2024. It's not like you recieve the 20th overall pick in 2024 and come draft day that pick is now the 41st overall pick.

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...but you wait a year to get that player and his development is a year behind the same pick this year.

The OP is right. That doesn't mean that getting the #1 overall next year isn't better than getting the #32 this year.

But, if you assume the same pick, the OP is right on the money.

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Well we're not trading CSP for a 2024 1st round pick alone so the picks you get in 2023 will mature with their draft class and the 2024 pick will mature with his draft class.

The situation the Saints are in they need lots of pick over the next 2 maybe 3 drafts. They need you cheap talent that can develop and have on the roster while they clean up the cap mess left by Brees and others.