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re: RBs in this draft to replace Kamara.

Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:23 pm to
I’m not sure how much he’s improving them with his moves.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:32 pm to

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I think they have to draft someone in Round 1 or 3 now. You can’t go into the season having only Murray.


Drafting a RB in the first is almost as bad as paying one imo. Especially with limited draft capital. Trade down makes sense if we are going to find a RB

Not sure a guy in the 3rd is going to replace

41% of our rush yards
24% of our TDs
21% of our receptions
17% of our receiving yards

Saints are pretty good about planing ahead for this kind of thing, especially with such a big part of the offense. I’m not worried
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:57 pm to
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Drafting a RB in the first is almost as bad as paying one imo.



You say this but then also say



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Not sure a guy in the 3rd is going to replace

41% of our rush yards
24% of our TDs
21% of our receptions
17% of our receiving yards



this. So if we draft a RB in round one it's a waste but if we draft one in the third it's most likely going to be a shittier player so why do it?

They're not going to find a player of Kamara's ability but they're not going to pay him big money, not when Ram and Lattimore are coming up. And you and I both know Payton and Ireland aren't trade down kind of guys. My preferred pick is Murray or Queen at 24, and then Van Jefferson in the third but with the way things are going, they could draft a guy like Cam Akers instead of adding a WR. But I could also see them having Swift rated pretty high and decide to take him.

Regardless of what players they draft offensively, I trust them and if they go Love or Swift at 24, then I'll be ok with it.
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:39 pm to
I agree with everything you said. I think people overvalue what he does. He is great when healthy don’t get me wrong but we have shown that we can win without him. You can throw up those stats on the percentage of his production all day long but I don’t think not having kamara stalls our offense. I don’t think you have to find one player that matches his production. The addition of Emmanuel Sanders alone will take care of the receiving production and will do a lot for freeing up MT. Latavius Murray is a good enough runner to pick up more of the rushing slack but we will need another back for sure. Honestly 41 percent of rushing yards ain’t that much. I don’t think you have to get a running back to replace Kamara one for one.

Another note: I can see Kamara trying to command more money by arguing that he has receiver duties.

As expensive as Michael Thomas is, he is much more important piece for today’s nfl. Wrs also have much longer longevity and I think he is legitimately the best receiver in the league.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:39 pm to
The thought of having to take one in the 1st just reflects the poor job the Saints have done building their skill positions with young, capable players.

Kamara’s workload reflects that too.

They may have to take a guy earlier than usual. But Gyno is right, taking a RB in the 1st is kinda dumb

Saints made this bed tho
Posted by Mpd31
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:50 pm to
I agree I don’t want to spend a first on a running back either but I don’t think you need to. I don’t think you need to have amazing backs to win. A few average to above average running backs would be fine with our offensive line. Secondly, history has shown that you can get some pretty darn good backs in the third. Zack Moss is another guy that I like.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:53 pm to
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this. So if we draft a RB in round one it's a waste but if we draft one in the third it's most likely going to be a shittier player so why do it?



No, my point is we've painted ourself into a corner if we cannot get a deal done and he holds out. You are almost forced to use a 1st on a replacement for AK. Takes away the luxury of BPA. There's no FA or guy on our roster who can absorb his workload


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Ram and Lattimore are coming up. And you and I both know Payton and Ireland aren't trade down kind of guys.


IDK, this year screams trade down to me for the very reason. Future roster flexibility is going to be paramount with all of the deals on the payroll. People keep saying this draft is about winning now but I do not believe that is the correct vision. We are stacked this season (pending AK)
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:54 pm to
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poor job the Saints have done building their skill positions with young, capable players.



There are going to be holes in some positions regarding depth when you have a pretty complete roster. Other than RB and LB, the only other positional group you can complain about is WR but they have the best WR in the league and one of the best #2 WRs in the league and will likely add another in the draft.


In addition to signing Murray, they probably should have drafted another RB last year but they were also pretty limited.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16055 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:42 pm to
I like the idea that I see some have floated on here of taking Cam Akers with a late round pick. But if we can keep Kamara for a low enough price, then we should keep him.
Posted by jamal
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 11:56 pm to
Akers is going to be really good. The offensive line and offense as whole was really bad at FSU. And he still was productive and didn’t mail it in.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Member since Sep 2011
32941 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:36 am to
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I see some have floated on here of taking Cam Akers with a late round pick.



Akers is a third round lock
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
26864 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:50 am to
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You looking for someone to say CEH?

this

We all know how clear it is that we would love him on our team.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
32941 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:26 am to
LSU homerism aside


He’s probably the one LSU player in the last several years I actually think we should draft. He would be a perfect fit in our offense. But it would take our third and 2021 second to move into the second round. Or just our 2021 first straight up
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