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Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:04 am to deuce985
bush makes that much bc of where he was drafted... different story
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:42 am to LSUsaintsfanla
No shite but do you think they are going to tie that much in PT too? Plus, RB isn't going to get anywhere near this contract now and if he expects it, hes gone too.
I have no problems trading for Matt Forte if the rumors are true. I think he'd blow up in our offense, plus hes a Northshore native. Its likely either PT or RB is gone by the end of the season(possibly both if PT doesn't get his head out his arse), so Forte would be a good insurance trade.
If the rumors are true Brown/Moore and a late pick would be a decent trade, IMO. Brown is on bad knees, is being a bitch and Moore is a system WR, IMO. A late pick isn't that valuable either.
Forte had a great rookie season and then a Sophomore slump. Which could be blamed on not just him but a terrible line too.
I have no problems trading for Matt Forte if the rumors are true. I think he'd blow up in our offense, plus hes a Northshore native. Its likely either PT or RB is gone by the end of the season(possibly both if PT doesn't get his head out his arse), so Forte would be a good insurance trade.
If the rumors are true Brown/Moore and a late pick would be a decent trade, IMO. Brown is on bad knees, is being a bitch and Moore is a system WR, IMO. A late pick isn't that valuable either.
Forte had a great rookie season and then a Sophomore slump. Which could be blamed on not just him but a terrible line too.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 12:49 am
Posted on 5/31/10 at 1:05 am to deuce985
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If the rumors are true Brown/Moore and a late pick would be a decent trade,
No way in hell would I make that trade.
You don't need a big name RB in Payton's system; secondly, this OL, when they want focus on the running game, can make an average RB look good.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 1:55 am to deuce985
moore has really good hands, dude catches everything
Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:19 am to LSUsaintsfanla
Forte is under contract for 2 more years. I'd rather JB for one more year than Forte for two. Adding him next to two elite guards, a good/occasionally great RT, and a decent enough center will give us an insane OL in a year that we have a legit shot to repeat. If they are intent on trading Brown, use him to get Haynesworth (if that is a legit option) or a draft pick. Really, if the Saints are keeping PT this year, Forte would be a #3 back this year, then under contract just one more season before we could see ourselves in the exact situation we're in right now, having to give a decent contract to a RB when they really need to get your 3 RBs to under $4m a year total (they could easily do less) and spend money on the rest of the team as opposed to the $11-14m they will have invested in it the next two years.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:50 am to tubucoco
ah, tubby. I've taken good care of human beings that were wrapped in straightjackets that have more common sense than you demonstrate.
And, fwiw, negative on that Forte trade. I like Matt, think he's a good kid and all, but the system Payton runs here is, as mentioned before, a plug and play system. You don't need an elite RB to do the job.
And, fwiw, negative on that Forte trade. I like Matt, think he's a good kid and all, but the system Payton runs here is, as mentioned before, a plug and play system. You don't need an elite RB to do the job.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:44 am to THRILLHO
Neither Pierre nor his agent truly expect to get that. It's a negotiation. Start high and work out the numbers with the team. If they give it to him (which they won't) then good for him. If not, I'm sure he will sign for less. He MUST know he won't approach that figure here or anywhere else.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 9:11 am to jdrumdog
you are one stupid hombre that just loves callin me out for some reason, I think you are the one in a straight jacket.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 9:15 am to THRILLHO
J Brown for Haynesworth and throw in a late pick because of his suspect injuries makes a lot of sense because he is that blowup DT they desperately need, some on here wont like it because they don't like Haynesworth, but the Saints don't need a Matt Forte, but Loomis does need to appreciate the hardwork PT has put in award the kid around 4, 5 mil a season.
like I've been preaching all along on here, the idiot invested 150 million in 3 DE's, and none of them was worth that, none were all pros or anything like that.
like I've been preaching all along on here, the idiot invested 150 million in 3 DE's, and none of them was worth that, none were all pros or anything like that.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 9:30 am
Posted on 5/31/10 at 9:43 am to deuce985
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If the rumors are true Brown/Moore and a late pick would be a decent trade, IMO.
that would be a stupid trade. we would be getting ripped off bigtime.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 2:20 pm to tubucoco
tubby with the nice thread hijack idea AGAIN. Of course i love calling you out...it's fun to watch idiots on the internet. Last word, right? lol.
And not this Brown for Haynesworth crap again. You wanna keep this on topic? Or just show your stupidity again?
And not this Brown for Haynesworth crap again. You wanna keep this on topic? Or just show your stupidity again?
Posted on 5/31/10 at 3:55 pm to jdrumdog
really, Chicken should ban idiots like you. You are a perfect waste of space in the mind. Now as I've said numerous times in this thread, stop replying to me you stoopid son of a bitch!
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 4:31 pm to tubucoco
I love PT. I hate paying any players for what they did previously.He's a sysyem player pay him what the RB budget allows or let him go.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 6:28 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Neither Pierre nor his agent truly expect to get that. It's a negotiation.
asking for $7M/year as a 3rd rate RB is not a negotiation. they should have just asked for $1B, because it's about as realistic
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Exactly why Forte would make sense. Regardless what people might think in here, neither Brown or Moore have much value. Otherwise Brown would be gone by now. We drafted a OT in the second round who was a projected first round talent. JB has bad knees and if the Bears want him, take him.
Who gives a shite if Forte has 2 years left on his deal. Moore and JB are on one year deals. JB is definitely gone, why not get some trade value now from him? We didn't even use Moore that much last year. I like Moore but I think hes incredibly overrated on here. He catches everything but hes slow, isn't flashy in the open field, small, injury prone and hes definitely not a great route-runner.
Moore is just a product of Brees making him better than he is. He just gets it done, which is fine but we have plenty of WRs. Getting trade value out of him wouldn't be that bad, IMO. Forte would be insurance if the Saints end up getting rid of both RB/PT at the end of this season, which is a possible scenario if both ask for too much. Its almost certain one will be gone, unless we can talk them down to decent deals.
Who gives a shite if Forte has 2 years left on his deal. Moore and JB are on one year deals. JB is definitely gone, why not get some trade value now from him? We didn't even use Moore that much last year. I like Moore but I think hes incredibly overrated on here. He catches everything but hes slow, isn't flashy in the open field, small, injury prone and hes definitely not a great route-runner.
Moore is just a product of Brees making him better than he is. He just gets it done, which is fine but we have plenty of WRs. Getting trade value out of him wouldn't be that bad, IMO. Forte would be insurance if the Saints end up getting rid of both RB/PT at the end of this season, which is a possible scenario if both ask for too much. Its almost certain one will be gone, unless we can talk them down to decent deals.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 7:47 pm to deuce985
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JB is definitely gone, why not get some trade value now from him?
Because you don't always HAVE to get something for an upcoming FA. Sometimes it's best to just let them play, and JB can absolutely help us more than Forte can.
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neither Brown or Moore have much value. Otherwise Brown would be gone by now.
He still hasn't signed his tender yet. You can't say he has little value when teams very well could have been interested, just nothing can happen until he signs.
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:22 pm to deuce985
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Forte would be insurance if the Saints end up getting rid of both JB/PT at the end of this season, which is a possible scenario if both ask for too much. Its almost certain one will be gone, unless we can talk them down to decent deals.
so we trade a 2 time pro bowl left tackle and a decent possession receiver for a insurance plan?
Posted on 5/31/10 at 8:45 pm to tubucoco
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really, Chicken should ban idiots like you. You are a perfect waste of space in the mind. Now as I've said numerous times in this thread, stop replying to me you stoopid son of a bitch!
I RA'd, :) (NR)
and...we need an insurance plan? thought the team had pretty good insurance as is. We put that policy to good use last year didn't we?
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 5/31/10 at 9:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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as a 3rd rate RB
Pierre is better than a 3rd rate RB. Not worth $7M, but better than 3rd rate. Don't be silly.
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