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re: PFF Quarterback Rankings: 14. DEREK CARR, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:16 am to
Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:16 am to
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Very true, but even if you look at our game last year against them, their playcalling was so bad it made Pete look like prime sean payton


McDaniels tried to force the wrong system on the wrong QB. This was commonly talked about in the Las Vegas media and by other NFL analysts. Two different philosophies. The rumor is that Carr went off script on some plays during a 3 game stretch and they won those 3 games but it caused a divide between coach and QB when it was brought up in public.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13940 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 11:21 am to
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Very true, but even if you look at our game last year against them, their playcalling was so bad it made Pete look like prime sean payton
I agree. I was referring to Carr's time before McDaniels.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
5678 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:16 pm to
That's the worst I recall seeing the NFC QBs look in quite some time.

I also disagree with the order of the top 5, but not who is in it. Imo, Hurts, Dak, Cousins, Carr, Stafford. But after Hurts there isn't much of a difference.

Could also see Carr being in front of Cousins with us. Don't see Minny quite repeating last year.
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
5678 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:20 pm to
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Why would an injury in 2022 affect his ranking for 2023?


Given the nature of his injuries people questioned if his career was over. And I don't think he is far from that.

But I'm definitely not a Stafford hater. I wanted him to come and replace Brees before the Rams snatched him up. Sad how much injuries have derailed how good he could have been.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
5678 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 4:23 pm to
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While I do not disagree with you about McDaniels, Carr has had some issues in the past at times with throwing too many INTs.


We had a HoF QB that also had those issues. It's how you bounce back from them that matters more, and when they happen.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 5:46 pm to
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Hes a horrible head coach and I still have no idea why he got hired.
is that different here?
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:43 pm to
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still have no idea why he got hired.


it's Oakland.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77168 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 6:46 pm to
Such a question.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
27987 posts
Posted on 5/25/23 at 10:01 pm to
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9.KIRK COUSINS, MINNESOTA VIKINGS
10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS
12. MATTHEW STAFFORD, LOS ANGELES RAMS
14. DEREK CARR, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
I feel okay boys
This post was edited on 5/25/23 at 10:02 pm
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5416 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:08 am to
Healthy OL and a running game will help Carr exceed expectations. The big but is play calling, it was awful last year.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
6127 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:19 am to
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7. JALEN HURTS, PHILADELPHIA EAGLES 9. KIRK COUSINS, MINNESOTA VIKINGS 10. DAK PRESCOTT, DALLAS COWBOYS 12. MATTHEW STAFFORD, LOS ANGELES RAMS 14. DEREK CARR, NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 15. GENO SMITH, SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 16. JARED GOFF, DETROIT LIONS 17. DANIEL JONES, NEW YORK GIANTS 18. JUSTIN FIELDS, CHICAGO BEARS 23. BROCK PURDY, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS 25. BRYCE YOUNG, CAROLINA PANTHERS 26. JORDAN LOVE, GREEN BAY PACKERS 27. SAM HOWELL, WASHINGTON COMMANDERS 28. BAKER MAYFIELD, TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS 29. COLT MCCOY, ARIZONA CARDINALS 31. DESMOND RIDDER, ATLANTA FALCONS


This has to be the weakest group of QBs in a conference I can ever remember.

It is possible to squint at that list and see a scenario where Carr is one of the best 2 QBs in the conference.
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