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PFF Top 25 players under 25 years old

Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:03 pm
Saints have 3 players on the list

PFFs 25 under 25

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Part B’ of the aforementioned rookie duo, Lattimore was so sticky in coverage in 2017, targeting him was only a slightly more lucrative opportunity than spiking the ball into the ground and certainly a more a risky one. Lattimore allowed a passer rating against of just 45.3 (third among cornerbacks) while ranking third in playmaker index, intercepting or breaking up 22.1 percent of the passes thrown his way.


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Kamara broke onto the scene as a third-round pick and had one of the more incredible rookie campaigns we have seen. Forcing a ridiculous 57 missed tackles on just 201 touches and averaging 3.83 yards after contact per carry, Kamara led all running backs in elusive rating with a mark of 108.5 – the highest elusive rating ever recorded  for running backs with a minimum of 80 carries. Kamara immediately established himself as a mismatch nightmare in the passing game, leading all running backs in yards per route run at 2.84. To top off those two crazy accomplishments, his 90.2 overall grade in 2017 is the second-highest grade we’ve given to a rookie running back (Alfred Morris, 2012).


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The third Saints member of the 2017 NFL Draft class, Ramczyk immediately made his presence known ranking inside the top-10 among tackles as a rookie with an overall grade of 84.2. From Week 10 through the playoffs, he was arguably the best tackle in the league excelling as both a run-blocker and in pass protection. Outside of one hit surrendered, Ramczyk kept his quarterback completely clean of any pressure over his last eight games.


Saints also had a future 10 in Marcus Williams

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Williams capped his rookie campaign off on a bad note, missing an important tackle in the Divisional Round of the playoffs to spark a miracle Minnesota Vikings comeback win. However, Williams’ miss shouldn’t discredit what was a great regular season.

Williams finished the 2017 season with an 86.8 overall grade, the second-highest grade among all rookie safeties, tied for 11th among all safeties. The former Utah product ranked eighth among qualifying NFL safeties in tackling efficiency (15.6) during the regular season, as he missed just five tackles all year. In coverage, he ranked third in yards allowed per coverage snap (0.13) among qualifying safeties.

Williams’ final play of the 2017 season is, of course, a tough pill to swallow for both him and the Saints’ faithful. His route to redemption isn’t far off from the level of play he put forth a year ago, a tell-tale sign that he’ll likely bounce back quite quickly in 2018.




PFFs future 10

The foundation has been laid. It's time to send Brees out with another title.



This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:08 pm to
Pretty cool that the Saints have so many players on this but they’ve got Mahommes in the future top 10 who didn’t start a game last season and Leonard Fournette was completely left off the list.
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9739 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:38 pm to
A few of the PFF contributors don't grade Fournette favorbly.

They hated him being picked so high in last years draft
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 3:42 pm to
Yea, Fournette being left off is a head scratcher. He helped lead his run centric team to the final minutes of the AFC Championships game as a rookie and did not disappoint.

The NFL is definitely never lacking in the talent category EVER. Loads of young talent and I expect Davenport to be on a list similar to this next season.
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 4:36 pm
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
2972 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:44 pm to
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Part B’ of the aforementioned rookie duo, Lattimore was so sticky in coverage in 2017, targeting him was only a slightly more lucrative opportunity than spiking the ball into the ground and certainly a more a risky one. Lattimore allowed a passer rating against of just 45.3 (third among cornerbacks) while ranking third in playmaker index, intercepting or breaking up 22.1 percent of the passes thrown his way.



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Kamara broke onto the scene as a third-round pick and had one of the more incredible rookie campaigns we have seen. Forcing a ridiculous 57 missed tackles on just 201 touches and averaging 3.83 yards after contact per carry, Kamara led all running backs in elusive rating with a mark of 108.5 – the highest elusive rating ever recorded  for running backs with a minimum of 80 carries. Kamara immediately established himself as a mismatch nightmare in the passing game, leading all running backs in yards per route run at 2.84. To top off those two crazy accomplishments, his 90.2 overall grade in 2017 is the second-highest grade we’ve given to a rookie running back (Alfred Morris, 2012).



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The third Saints member of the 2017 NFL Draft class, Ramczyk immediately made his presence known ranking inside the top-10 among tackles as a rookie with an overall grade of 84.2. From Week 10 through the playoffs, he was arguably the best tackle in the league excelling as both a run-blocker and in pass protection. Outside of one hit surrendered, Ramczyk kept his quarterback completely clean of any pressure over his last eight games.



Saints also had a future 10 in Marcus Williams 

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Williams capped his rookie campaign off on a bad note, missing an important tackle in the Divisional Round of the playoffs to spark a miracle Minnesota Vikings comeback win. However, Williams’ miss shouldn’t discredit what was a great regular season. 

Williams finished the 2017 season with an 86.8 overall grade, the second-highest grade among all rookie safeties, tied for 11th among all safeties. The former Utah product ranked eighth among qualifying NFL safeties in tackling efficiency (15.6) during the regular season, as he missed just five tackles all year. In coverage, he ranked third in yards allowed per coverage snap (0.13) among qualifying safeties. 

Williams’ final play of the 2017 season is, of course, a tough pill to swallow for both him and the Saints’ faithful. His route to redemption isn’t far off from the level of play he put forth a year ago, a tell-tale sign that he’ll likely bounce back quite quickly in 2018. 


Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:55 pm to
frick, you don’t need the blue pill reading that shite.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25284 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 4:55 pm to
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they’ve got Mahommes in the future top 10


PFF also jizzed their pants over Baker Mayfield - apparently their algorithm doesn’t factor in Big 12 air raids against shite defenses every week.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted by BMouzone
Member since Jan 2017
480 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 5:36 pm to
I think he was implying it was the equivalent of it
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33745 posts
Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:45 pm to
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PFF also jizzed their pants over Baker Mayfield - apparently their algorithm doesn’t factor in Big 12 air raids against shite defenses every week,




I remember watching the 1st half of Oklahoma-UGA and while Oklahoma/Mayfield started strong, I noticed in the 2nd quarter he was holding the ball longer. Basically when Georgia settled down (pass defense) wise Mayfield looked more ordinary.

course.. Oklahoma's RB ripped Georgia's D a new one so it's not like the onus was all on Mayfield.

I missed the 2nd half of the game
This post was edited on 5/28/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
10807 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:03 am to
Fournette might’ve been left off bc he looked like a 40 year old man in 8th grade
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1034 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:43 am to
They value the passing game above all else. Fournette doesn't offer as much as other backs in that aspect.
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1034 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:46 am to
He has their 2 highest graded seasons for college QBs since they started grading. This past season higher than the one before, while losing Westbrook, Mixon, and Perrine to the NFL.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:57 am to
I'm confused.

Does Fournette play for the Saints?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27256 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:05 am to
This just shows how important high draft picks are though.
Sucks we only had a 1st and a late 3rd this past yr
Posted by 995webmaster
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
3780 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:25 am to
Michael Thomas (born March 3, 1993) missed the list by less than two months...

Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4793 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:09 am to
Man that was one insane draft
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64248 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:26 pm to
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in the future top 10 who didn’t start a game last season and Leonard Fournette was completely left off the list.


Didn’t mahomes start and win the final game of the year?
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 1:36 pm to
Pff looks at more than just total stats. I imagine Fournette's lackluster sub 4.0 ypc really hurt his case. He also didn't have to share many carries with someone else, much like Hunt.

What Kamara did with as "few" touches as he got is pretty unheard of.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22535 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:00 pm to
Since almost everything of theirs is premium this one of the few explanations they have on him:

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Leonard Fournette’s numbers are also a concern, for similar reasons. He didn’t post a high rate of 20-plus-yard runs, but these runs did make up a significant percentage of his total yardage. Just two of his carries (0.7 percent of his total carries) make up 15.9 percent of his total rushing yardage. I got on my soapbox midway through the season and started ranting about a looming regression, after I felt fantasy owners were paying too high of a price for what I felt amounted to just two fluky 75-plus-yard runs. It turns out, I was right. If we strip out his two longest runs of the season, he falls from 18th-worst (3.88), to second-worst (3.29) in yards per carry — the largest drop among all qualifying running backs. As evident also by his below-average ranking in about all of the above statistics, Fournette’s 2017 was highly underwhelming, but his fantasy value was buoyed by two long runs, volume, and touchdowns
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:27 pm to
PFF pretty much always has a good reason for their ratings.

People just don't want to hear it.
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