re: Payton's Inexcusable Timeout Management

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It's always been something to see.

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I would have thought it was a joke, but he posted it on the MSB right before this.

OP's getting lazy with his trolls I guess.

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If you paid attention to the announcers yesterday, I know that is a chore, that stated that by calling that TO it gave the refs more time to look at the play. If he didn't call the TO then they would have had to make a decision within 60 seconds.

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That's not what they said at all. It was a wasted TO as they had already called down for the review. The booth has 60 seconds to call down to the ref to review it, and they did it within that time frame.

In the end, it only really cost the Saints had they wanted to try an end of the half score.

The 2:01 second TO was more about him telling his defense he completely trusted them. It could've backfired badly if SF somehow got the first down, but the chances of converting a 2 and 19 into a first down aren't that high relatively speaking.

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I really don't feel like explaining in detail about how good of a TO it was. So I'll just address the meme that it "only saved a second". What's better? Having an extra second or not having an extra second?

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No. The question is what's better? Having an extra second or having an extra timeout?

Payton gets a pass here. I questioned the timeout at the 2:11 mark in the fourth because it was questionable. Since everything worked out the way it did, the timeout looks brilliant. Payton's confidence in the defense and believing the 49ers might be playing for overtime is to credit here. It was a gamble and it paid off. You cannot question success.

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We wouldn't have had an extra timeout.

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Yes we would. We would have used the two minute warning instead of the timeout to stop the clock. How do you not understand that?

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You cannot question success.

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I think it's good to question what worked, and why it worked.

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Payton's confidence in the defense and believing the 49ers might be playing for overtime is to credit here

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Absolutely, but that was based on a game's worth of asswhooping the 9'ers.

I bet the confederacy of dunces in this thread feel real smart now that it is established by his own admission that one of their vocal leaders(Fun Bunch) thought we wouldn't have had an extra timeout.

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Yes we would. We would have used the two minute warning instead of the timeout to stop the clock. How do you not understand that?

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You are assuming that the 2 plays the 9ers call are EXACTLY the same after that, and the way Payton called the TO didn't effect their play calling.

They would have had 2 plays after the 2 minute warning instead of one...what don't you understand about that?

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And then would've had to likely use the TO to stop the clock the following play

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Oh the clock runs on an incomplete pass? Because that's what the next play was. Sorry, I see why everybody was jumping on me.

Sorry guys, simple misunderstanding of the rule. I thought the clock stopped on incomplete passes.

eta: yes they could run to force us to use a timeout, but then we are forcing them to limit their playbook. That's why a timeout is more valuable than 2 minute warning. You are not forced to take it when the clock is stopped anyway.

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We would have used the two minute warning instead of the timeout to stop the clock. How do you not understand that?

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And then 49ers could have ran the ball twice after the 2 minute warning and forced us to use a timeout.

Use the timeout before the 2 minute warning and you are daring 49ers to throw the ball, which obviously Payton wanted.