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re: Payton to the Chargers?

Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:38 am to
Posted by BigPerm30
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:38 am to
How many 3rd and 4th rounds picks is Mickey getting?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:41 am to
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But they are going to the playoffs..........



that isn't the bar needed to be set as owner of the chargers with Justin Herbert entering his prime. you either have faith he is the guy to win 2 super bowls over the next 10 years or you don't.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:44 am to
Probably fired Chargers HC after yoga video lol
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 8:49 am to
agreed, but if he has a major coaching blunder or they look terrible they might
Posted by Kevin TheRant
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:03 am to
Great, o can’t wait to have Herbert as our QB. Nothing less
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:06 am to
He's in a division with a better qb in his prime that has a better HC than Payton.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:07 am to
Herbert for Payton. Straight up
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:08 am to
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He's in a division with a better qb in his prime that has a better HC than Payton.


Both are somewhat debatable. Especially the coach part
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:11 am to
Sure it's debatable about Sean vs Reid, but Reid has a better winning %

Reid has been to 9 championship/SB games in 23 years.

Payton has been to 3 championship/Sb games in 15 years.
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 9:17 am
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:21 am to
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Their pick will be in the 20’s….how is this good? Only good I see is Sean in AFC. If they win a game, we picking in the upper 20’s.

It would still be a first round pick, and if that's not enough because you have a team throwing a pick in the low teens, then you can make them sweeten the deal with even more picks and/or players.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3218 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:25 am to
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Sure it's debatable about Sean vs Reid, but Reid has a better winning %

Reid has been to 9 championship/SB games in 23 years.

Payton has been to 3 championship/Sb games in 15 years.




So just ignore the 8 whole years more the walrus has been coaching?
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:27 am to
I'll take:

2023 1st round pick
Either of the starting receivers (allen or williams?)
James the safety
2024 second round pick

That would be my starting point.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:30 am to
Maybe I should've used a stat like winning % that accounts for that. Damn, I shoulda said how many champ/SB games per year instead of just stating how many champ/Sb games and how many years they coached
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:40 am to
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Reid has been to 9 championship/SB games in 23 years.

Payton has been to 3 championship/Sb games in 15 years.

That's a weird way to say Reid is 3-6 in conference championships and 1-2 in SBs, and Payton is 1-2 in conference championships and 1-0 in SBs

Also, their winning percentage differences are negligeable. Payton is at .631 & Reid is at .640. The difference is basically Payton needing 2-3 more wins out of 240+ games.
Posted by suavecito80
Member since Apr 2014
3218 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:44 am to
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That's a weird way to say Reid is 3-6 in conference championships and 1-2 in SBs, and Payton is 1-2 in conference championships and 1-0 in SBs

Also, their winning percentage differences are negligeable. Payton is at .631 & Reid is at .640. The difference is basically Payton needing 2-3 more wins out of 240+ games.




Not to mention Payton was literally robbed out of another super bowl that I would put my nuts on the Saints would have boat raced the patriots or at the very minimum scored more that a fricking field goal.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12457 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:45 am to
39.1% of Reid's seasons have ended among the final 4 teams. He's the #1 seed again this season.

20.0% of Sean's seasons have ended amount the final 4 teams.


I think that's significant when comparing the 2. Both are obviously outstanding coaches. I really don't see how this is somehow insulting to Sean

Not to mention that Reid has done it with multiple qbs. Sean had 1 season without a HOF qb
This post was edited on 1/5/23 at 9:47 am
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:55 am to
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2023 1st round pick Either of the starting receivers (allen or williams?) James the safety 2024 second round pick That would be my starting point.

Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52021 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 9:56 am to
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Chargers are gonna win 11 games and make playoffs. I'll be pretty shocked if they fire their coach
same team that fired a coach after going 14-2
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:34 am to
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Their pick will be in the 20’s….how is this good?

Duh...Loomis will take that pick & package it with our 2024 1st round pick to trade up and get our 10th overall pick back from Philly, silly.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20727 posts
Posted on 1/5/23 at 10:39 am to
I didn't see it as insulting, just that it was a weird way of putting it

If given a choice, I'd actually take Reid over Payton. Reid has been successful with McNabb, Alex Smith, and Mahomes. He may have had some success with Vick, just don't recall how much they overlapped. The key to this is his ability to adapt to the different styles. Whereas Payton's experience is Brees and some like to give him credit for Romo. Both have very similar styles of play
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