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On the Atlanta 2-point try that was overturned

Posted on 11/28/19 at 10:59 pm
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/28/19 at 10:59 pm
Atlanta wide receiver fumbled the ball over the pylon which is the same as fumbling the ball out of the endzone. Isn't that supposed to result in some kind of points for the other team? Not sure of the rule on this.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:00 pm to
No it’s a fumble out of the end zone.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79717 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

Atlanta wide receiver fumbled the ball over the pylon which is the same as fumbling the ball out of the endzone. Isn't that supposed to result in some kind of points for the other team? Not sure of the rule on this.


On a regular play, it’s a touchback.

On a conversion, it’s just no good.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16418 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:01 pm to
If they were going for the TD, it would be a touchback to the defense. On 2 pt, it's just a missed attempt
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4067 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:01 pm to
Do you even football bro?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47465 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

Atlanta wide receiver fumbled the ball over the pylon which is the same as fumbling the ball out of the endzone. Isn't that supposed to result in some kind of points for the other team? Not sure of the rule on this.


If he had fumbled it out of his own end zone it would be a one point safety.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
4918 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:03 pm to
Why would this scenario (fumbling out of the opponent’s end zone) result in points for the defense? Try to think critically.
This post was edited on 11/28/19 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Bumble Bee
Northwest, La
Member since Jan 2011
753 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:06 pm to
fumble out of the end zone is a touchback. no points.
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:13 pm to
The better question is how did the fricking ref staring at the play within arms reach call it a TD when the fricker clearly threw it at the pylon?
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2009 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:17 pm to
No kidding!
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57496 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:19 pm to
Why would it be points for the other team?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:19 pm to
It's supposed to be a .5 point penalty, comes off of the offending team score.

Why do you think the line is so frequently in increments of .5 points? Duh.
Posted by DIGGY
Member since Nov 2012
1755 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:20 pm to
The bigger question is how in the hell did the ref call it good when he was looking right at it from 4 ft away!!!! The receiver relinquished control of the ball with BOTH hands before it contacted the pylon!!!! SMH
Posted by xrockfordf150x
Walker, LA
Member since Sep 2008
3829 posts
Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:51 pm to
I believe what your thinking of is the obscure 1 point safety. That would occur if the defense recovers the ball on a conversion and ends up losing ground and being tackled for a safety. In that case it is ruled a 1 point safety.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/28/19 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

If they were going for the TD, it would be a touchback to the defense. On 2 pt, it's just a missed attempt

this is the answer you seek

if it were a regular play... it'd be a turnover... Saints ball at the 20

since it was a 2PC... it's just a failed conversion attempt
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3768 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 12:27 am to
quote:

Isn't that supposed to result in some kind of points for the other team?

Yes

Should have been a 69 second runoff and Saints are awarded 4 points and possession.

Was fricking bullshite
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I believe what your thinking of is the obscure 1 point safety. That would occur if the defense recovers the ball on a conversion and ends up losing ground and being tackled for a safety. In that case it is ruled a 1 point safety


Thank GOD!

This was it. It was driving me crazy that I couldn't remember what it was.

I knew there was some kind of weird unfolding of events that would cause point(s) to be awarded outside of the norm.

Does anyone know if this has ever happened in an NFL game? I want to say it was explained in a game and that's where I remember it from so I'm wondering if it actually happened in that game or if they were maybe just explaining the rules for 2-point conversions. My memory on it is really fuzzy
This post was edited on 11/29/19 at 8:01 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:02 am to
What happens if the offense trying to make the two-point conversion try somehow, inexplicably, gets driven all the way back to the other side of the field and is tackled in the other end zone? Is that just like any other safety? Two points and a free-kick?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 8:07 am to
quote:

this is the answer you seek

if it were a regular play... it'd be a turnover... Saints ball at the 20

since it was a 2PC... it's just a failed conversion attempt


No, no. I'm well aware of the rules for fumbling out of the endzone during regular play, I've been watching football since about 1986. I actually wasn't so sure on a two-point conversion but that wasn't what I was thinking of anyway. I was thinking of the 1-point 2-point conversion where there's a change of possession and then a subsequent safety for what was originally the defending team.

xrockforf140x posted about it. Forever in his debt. It was driving me absolutely nuts that I couldn't remember what it was.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48412 posts
Posted on 11/29/19 at 11:46 am to
quote:

The better question is how did the fricking ref staring at the play within arms reach call it a TD when the fricker clearly threw it at the pylon?


I noticed this also.
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