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Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
Beat me to it haha
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:47 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Smith had like 2 more sacks than Bresee in like 13 more games
You responded to a post about Carter talking Smith?
I think the only thing I said about him was that he has a position on the Eagles (but wouldn't here)
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Carter:
38 games
6 sacks
18.5 TFL
38 games
6 sacks
18.5 TFL
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
SFP, it’s hard to reconcile 2 players that have glaring motivation red flags and the saints drafting them
Sometimes the narrative has to be taken into account. Davenport was similar except it was he loves poetry and anime instead of doesn’t try hard.
Sometimes the narrative has to be taken into account. Davenport was similar except it was he loves poetry and anime instead of doesn’t try hard.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 8:53 am to msstate7
Carter
PFF grades:
2022: 92.3
2021: 85.3
2020: 71.4
Bresee
PFF grades:
2022: 68.2
2021: 69.4
2020: 73.5
PFF grades:
2022: 92.3
2021: 85.3
2020: 71.4
Bresee
PFF grades:
2022: 68.2
2021: 69.4
2020: 73.5
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Carter + JSN (I'd assume we trade up for a WR) is a lot better than Olave and Bresee
Give me Bresee and Olave over Carter and JSN. There really isn’t anything special about JSN. Carter has bust written all over him. I wouldn’t take him at 29
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:14 am to tigerfan88
quote:
Olave was already a much better player than Davis their respective rookie years.
I wouldn’t say that either were better as it depends on needs. BUT you should go take a look at rushing yards allowed by the philly defense with Davis and without. They got gashed in the games he didn’t play (redskins game they lost for example) and it was something crazy like <50 yards/game when he was healthy and played his full allotment of snaps
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:17 am to Handsome Pete
quote:
JSN is limited by his speed and size to playing the slot
Haha say what? JSN was their best receiver when all 3 OSU studs played together 2 years ago. They’re all very talented similar to LSU 2019.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:17 am to Sweep Da Leg
The problem with Davis is his full allotment of snaps is still at best ~30% of snaps
Posted on 4/28/23 at 9:56 am to Sweep Da Leg
quote:
JSN was their best SLOT receiver when all 3 OSU studs played together
FIFY.
Easy to feast on the inside with Olave and Wilson on the outside. If JSN is so much better, why were Olave and Wilson picked 10+ spots higher?
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:03 am to Mpd31
quote:
Carter has bust written all over him. I wouldn’t take him at 29
bullshite. If the Saints were somehow fortunate enough to pick him at 29, you'd be whooping it up on here about it being the steal of the draft.
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Whatever issues Carter has, Bresee has as well, without the upside. Carter in 2021 was seen as one of the most elite prospects for 2022. Up until the SECCG, he was seen that way. Bressee hasn't been seen as elite for 2 years
That simply is not true. Coming out of high school Bresee was #1 overall and #18 historical. He was a can’t miss. Jalen Carter was the same class and #4 DT. Still top 20. Bresee has quite a bit happened to him out of his control making some questions. That doesn’t take away from the upside. It’s just seen that the risk is greater.
Carter: 6’3” 314lbs
Bresee: 6’5 1/2” 298lbs
But the upside is they’re just as much as Carter.
This post was edited on 4/28/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 4/28/23 at 10:40 am to SCREWDAT
quote:
Bull shite. If the Saints were somehow fortunate enough to pick him at 29, you'd be whooping it up on here about it being the steal of the draft.
Don’t get me wrong the talent is there but we have seen this all before. Highly talented player that lacks work ethic and motivation flames out in the nfl. It just isn’t that important to him.
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