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re: NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:22 pm to Keeble9145
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:22 pm to Keeble9145
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Except that Hayes didn't ram him on purpose, if he rammed him on purpose he wouldn't have slammed on his breaks before the impact
you have no way of knowing this... AT ALL
and neither do I, so before you come at me bro, let me be clear... did YOU see the accident happen? were you on scene?
he could have tried to slow down before ramming him to avoid hurting himself and at the same time, he could have slammed on his brakes because he was looking on the floorboard for a gun, phone, joint, etc he dropped (speculation here, not facts)
you (or anyone else here for that matter) don't know shite
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:24 pm to Midget Death Squad
I'm sick of coming to Saints Talk and reading a bunch of know it all's who claim Will Smith was wrong, SICK OF IT. It's fricking disgusting & makes me not want to be apart of this board. Let all the fricking details come out before you even think of believing that piece of shite's story, who murdered a beautiful person...
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:24 pm to lsupride87
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Look, someone posted the picture and the Hummers tires. It is fairly obvious. It has not been written anywhere though
Obvious when reporters at the scene said the Mercedes was pushed 15 feet into the Impala? Have we seen the tires on the Mercedes? Get Marissa Tomei in here!
The Mercedes was either stopped or moving slower than the Hummer, or the collision wouldn't have happened and the windshield wouldn't have shattered. The Mercedes made front end contact with the Impala so we know it was pushed to some degree. What is so hard about that? There is also the matter of different types of skid marks, ie free wheel, braking, or acceleration. There could have been marks for both cars that would support he idea that the hummer propelled into the Mercedes.
My point in all this is that people who want a certain outcome are parroting speculation that they have read on here instead of sticking to reports and it is spamming the shite out of the board.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:25 pm to moneyg
quote:That's Smith's lawyer came out and said there was contact.
What were LE and lsupride saying?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:27 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Obvious when reporters at the scene said the Mercedes was pushed 15 feet into the Impala? Have we seen the tires on the Mercedes? Get Marissa Tomei in here! The Mercedes was either stopped or moving slower than the Hummer, or the collision wouldn't have happened and the windshield wouldn't have shattered. The Mercedes made front end contact with the Impala so we know it was pushed to some degree. What is so hard about that? There is also the matter of different types of skid marks, ie free wheel, braking, or acceleration. There could have been marks for both cars that would support he idea that the hummer propelled into the Mercedes. My point in all this is that people who want a certain outcome are parroting speculation that they have read on here instead of sticking to reports and it is spamming the shite out of the board.
REEEAAAACCCCHHHHH
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:29 pm to moneyg
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You keep wanting to jump to the end and argue that it will be murder. I don't think anyone you are arguing with is taking the stance that it won't be murder. They are saying that it is plausible that it was not murder...and they are offering plausible examples of how that could be.
I'll say, right now, I don't think it is murder if I'm coming from the burden of proof outlook.
From a logical outlook I think it is, but there is a lot that has to be confirmed and proven first
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:30 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
Obvious when reporters at the scene said the Mercedes was pushed 15 feet into the Impala? Have we seen the tires on the Mercedes? Get Marissa Tomei in here!
The Mercedes was either stopped or moving slower than the Hummer, or the collision wouldn't have happened and the windshield wouldn't have shattered. The Mercedes made front end contact with the Impala so we know it was pushed to some degree. What is so hard about that? There is also the matter of different types of skid marks, ie free wheel, braking, or acceleration. There could have been marks for both cars that would support he idea that the hummer propelled into the Mercedes.
My point in all this is that people who want a certain outcome are parroting speculation that they have read on here instead of sticking to reports and it is spamming the shite out of the board.
the long set of skid marks that I saw definitely were not from the benz and it honestly didnt even look like a skid mark. I believe it was from when the wrecker pulled the hummer up. you could easily see the tread as if the tire had some oil or something on it as it was rolled onto the wrecker, not what you see with a skid mark.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:32 pm to Keeble9145
You do realize that an accelerating Hummer would leave skid marks right? As would a car that was rammed. I've seen you argue that Smith's H&R was intentional, yet you are sure the Hayes hit was not.
My bad, you are not interested in being objective so don't bother.
My bad, you are not interested in being objective so don't bother.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:33 pm to Lester Earl
yes, and no.
I don't know if I'll be able to answer them but I'll give it a shot.
I don't know if I'll be able to answer them but I'll give it a shot.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:34 pm to WhoDat37
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I'll say, right now, I don't think it is murder if I'm coming from the burden of proof outlook. From a logical outlook I think it is, but there is a lot that has to be confirmed and proven first
I agree with that
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:35 pm to diat150
Good point. The only thing real news report on this was Lyons Yellin reporting from the scene that the Mercedes was pushed approximately 15 feet into the Impala. I dont believe he made mention of skid marks and a wrecker could certainly have made those pictured.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:36 pm to JustinT37
quote:Find one person please. I can find plenty that say Hayes was def wrong. I haven't seen one say Smith was wrong. It seems Lester maybe hoping for it now, but he hasnt said it
I'm sick of coming to Saints Talk and reading a bunch of know it all's who claim Will Smith was wrong, SICK OF IT
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:39 pm to WhoDat37
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I'll say, right now, I don't think it is murder if I'm coming from the burden of proof outlook.
From a logical outlook I think it is, but there is a lot that has to be confirmed and proven first
We are 4 days into this. You aren't on a jury.
There will be plenty of evidence.
But there is plenty of evidence to support murder.
Exhibit A: Hayes shot and killed Will Smith.
(Hayes has to put on evidence to support a notion of self-defense)
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:39 pm to Vacherie Saint
The skid marks aren't from the benz man let it go. Ive stated many times that Hayes is more than likely guilty but Smith isn't as squeaky clean as most of the people on here want him to be. I've yet to see you agree to one factual piece of evidence that went into favor for Hayes so bring that bs somewhere else.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:42 pm to Keeble9145
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The skid marks aren't from the benz man let it go
Aw man, my bad. I'm sorry and I promise I wont let it happen again! Had I realized it was YOU, I wouldn't have refuted your baseless guessing with a bona fide news report from the scene.
Apologies.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:44 pm to Keeble9145
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I've yet to see you agree to one factual piece of evidence that went into favor for Hayes so bring that bs somewhere else.
what "factual" evidence is that? And what is "in favor" of Hayes considering he has not entered a plea or an explanation of his side of the events.
I'll wait.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:47 pm to Vacherie Saint
I love how you disregard all the rest of my statement because you know its true . Takes the black and gold glasses off for a second. Im a huge saints fan too but this is bigger than football.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:48 pm to JustinT37
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know it all's who claim Will Smith was wrong, SICK OF IT. It's fricking disgusting & makes me not want to be apart of this board. Let all the fricking details come out before you even think of believing that piece of shite's story, who murdered a beautiful person...
who physically assaults women.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:49 pm to Keeble9145
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one factual piece of evidence that went into favor for Hayes so bring that bs somewhere else.
SHOW ME ONE
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:49 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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who physically assaults women.
Who was killed by a guy with a prior weapons charge. Just an overall shite show all the way around.
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