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Nick Underhill explains how we can clear 80 Million cap space with no casualties

Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:42 pm
Posted by tigersquad89
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:42 pm
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This guy is one of the best beat writers in all of sports. Here is a quick video explaining how the Saints can clear 80 million in cap space without cutting anybody. If you are on Twitter I highly recommend following him.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:48 pm to
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the Saints can clear 80 million in cap space without cutting anybody.


JuJu come on down




Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:58 pm to
he also literally says that its not that we are not in cap hell.

Posted by msstate7
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:05 pm to
If we could get a big time FA WR, I'd go tackle or DT at pick #18
Posted by tigersquad89
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:13 pm to
Honestly, I’d rather draft a receiver. Somebody we get on a cheap contract for a while that could possibly be a star level receiver.
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:15 pm to
Pushing the bill to later years doesn’t “save” you anything.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:17 pm to


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“Brandon is an outstanding player,” Mayhew said. “Seven years here, five Pro Bowls. You can’t replace that kind of production. Very, very respected in the locker room and it’s been great getting to know him. It’s my first year here, being around him and seeing his work ethic.

“But I think our fans should know, we’ve made every effort to get something done. We’ll continue to work on that. Last year we made him an offer to be the highest-paid offensive guard in the history of the National Football League. 



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However, when asked why a deal hadn’t been reached in the past, he didn’t offer much.

“Honestly, I couldn't tell you,” Scherff said. “It's between my agent and here, so I'm just worried about playing football and doing what I can to help this team win.”



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Posted by TwoDatBait
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:20 pm to
When the cap keeps rising, yes it does…
Posted by WhoGeaux
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Pushing the bill to later years doesn’t “save” you anything.



against the salary cap it does because you are converting.


The most elementary way I can explain what the Saints do is: Salary cap DOES NOT EQUAL compensation cap.

Just like in real life football players make a salary, plus additional compensation...Salary is the computed component of the cap...so feel free to get creative and manipulate compensation elsewhere if you are interested.


The key to all of this is ownerships willingness to stroke big checks when called upon.
Posted by ErikGordan
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:33 pm to
The casualties will be those free agents the Saints will be underable to resign and/or sign.

Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:39 pm to
Yeah the better option would have been not paying our star players right?
Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:49 pm to
You still have to “pay” those dollars in cap terms.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:02 pm to
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Pushing the bill to later years doesn’t “save” you anything.


Posted by schexyoung
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:11 pm to
Laugh all you want, a dollar spent in bonus will still count on your cap. You “save” it from counting this year only for it to hit the following years.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted by TigahJay
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 4:14 pm to
That guy has probably never heard of Mickey Loomis either
Posted by Mrwhodat
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:49 pm to
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That guy has probably never heard of Mickey Loomis either


Posted by htran90
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 5:50 pm to
I mean youre just borrowing money from the future. You need an owner with money to do it though since it's a lot of paying upfront
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:38 am to
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a dollar spent in bonus will still count on your cap. You “save” it from counting this year only for it to hit the following years.

There are 2 advantages to pro-ration instead of immediate cap hits.

1. The cap goes up every year (unless a pandemic hits). That means $1 today is more expensive than $1 tomorrow.

2. The "year you feel it" can always be pushed back and the can kicked down the road. I mean one day will we feel it? Maybe, but we'll likely be in a tear down-rebuild situation anyway so it doesn't matter.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 5:39 am to
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You need an owner with money to do it though since it's a lot of paying upfront

I mean, a lot of these moves are roster bonuses being converted to signing bonuses. You pay both up front.
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