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re: Michael Thomas clears up play that led to Carr/Olave confrontation

Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:07 am to
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
7895 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:07 am to
Saints have 10 days to fix this.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8325 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:43 am to
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But damn its going to get ugly.


I don’t see that, I think y’all are blowing this tweet way out of proportion
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27261 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:27 pm to
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God fricking dammit Mike keep it in house. frick



You know Mike is going to have his back


Even though Mike is helping his boy, he needs to keep it in house.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27261 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:31 pm to
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If you read the article of when Carr had his issues with the Raiders is that he had a tough time being called out for his own issues by Mcdaniels. Instead would point fingers elsewhere; unfortunately its the same behavior here. Instead of acknowledging your own issues, he continues to shift blame elsewhere. Its a toxic environment when your so called leader is not taking blame for his own issues and then throwing other players under the bus. Not sure if Winston is better, but I could promise you lot of these players rather play for him than


Yeah, Carr is going to alienate himself. He is yelling at everyone on the field. He is tom Brady and doesn't demand that respect.

Brady isn't missing guys come open in the endzone
This is going to end bad
All the wrs are going to turn on Carr.

Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5520 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:24 pm to
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VictoryHill


You should post less.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8974 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:37 pm to
If they keep losing I can promise you, he wont be deleting these tweets next time and it will get ugly. Personally I already think there are issues between Carr and Olave. And despite Olave’s shite effort at times, not good to not be on same page as your best wr.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8974 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:41 pm to
Exactly last year Rodgers called out his young wrs. But hes Rodgers, Carr has done nothing in his career to act like he has the right to scream down the sidelines and say players aren’t doing their job. That JT Osullivan analysis is damning especially when your missing guys wide open, footwork is shite and aren’t processing/reading plays right. I’m not a Winston fan but he could do better and I’m just going to say it- I think Haener and/or Taysom might be the better options moving forward.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20977 posts
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:59 pm to
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Maybe it’s Carr that doesn’t know the playbook



I for one am starting to believe it’s way more Carr than Pete.

Pete hasn’t been real creative this season. But maybe he’s just trying to call an offense that Carr can thrive in. But he’s not thriving.

Carr’s whining and crying is coming off as defensive. It’s not coming off as “I’m not the problem”

Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
4933 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 12:35 am to
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don’t see that, I think y’all are blowing this tweet way out of proportion





Nope, it's legit melting down. MT knows what that tweet will do. Especially replying to Underhill.

As JT O Sullivan implied in the QB school link, Carr is failing to make the throws or even attempt the open throws. The wide outs are getting pissed about and deserve to be.

Especially with Carr jumping their arse. Carr needs to do his job better before he jumps on the other players. Carr is the problem and his teammates are getting fed up and firing public shots at him.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:44 am to
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You should post less.

Can't.

Then I wouldn't be here to deliver reality checks to my lil guys who have pie-in-the-sky dreams of Derek Carr being a good QB, Dennis Allen being a division-winning head coach, Olave being an alpha WR who can carry a passing game, or Jamaal Williams being actually good. Need to fulfill my fatherly duties and let my sons know the world is a tough place.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8974 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 8:12 am to
Your arse completely disappears when this teams wins. You want to be a real man, LIL GUY? Keep posting that same shite when this team wins too. But your scared want to be arse disappears when this team actually wins- hence my point you only enjoy the misery of this team and not when they actually win.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:21 am to
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Your arse completely disappears when this teams wins. You want to be a real man, LIL GUY? Keep posting that same shite when this team wins too. But your scared want to be arse disappears when this team actually wins- hence my point you only enjoy the misery of this team and not when they actually win.

Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27261 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:11 am to
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Olave being an alpha WR who can carry a passing game, or Jamaal Williams being actually good. Need to fulfill my fatherly duties and let my sons know the world is a tough place.



Have people on here said olave is an alpha wr1? I think most think he is a very good wr2.

Jamal Williams has already proved to be a good running back in this league. He wasn't signed to be the lead back.

He was signed to get 4 yards and a td when near the goal line.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7831 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:20 am to
Who cares? Let it all implode. Carr lets it out of the house each week by screaming at people. We’re way past keeping it in house at this point.

And I’m someone who’s crushed MT for 3 years. That’s how much I can’t stand Carr. His body language is atrocious, and his play is atrocious.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
8974 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:26 am to
Again with the homosexual innuendos. Again nothing against it but noting a very strong trend here. Hmm. Its 2023 you can come out of the closet and let us know you’re Mac Jones secret lover.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30204 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 1:58 pm to
I don't have any experience in coaching football or designing plays, so can someone explain to me why a play design would intentionally not have an eligible receiver in the progression at SOME point?

I get it, Olave's responsbility is to clear out the safety. However, what if the safety doesn't clear out, or what if Olave blows past the safety? Why not just have Olave run the route and if he's open he's open and if he's not, he's not?

What we saw Thursday night was literally a waste of an eligible player/receiver.

Seems silly to have him out there running and have him not be a target.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1353 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:17 pm to
MT hates punctuation
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
1353 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:36 pm to
The Carr-truthers are the worst. Self proclaimed 'true fans'. They'd rather hop on a bandwagon and watch their team burn than think for themselves. First sign of adversity they scatter like roaches.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81929 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 2:39 pm to
Even if that’s true, the fact that Carr threw a ball 5 yards out of bounds and then acts the way he did is classless.

It was solely for the viewing audience that he hung Olave out to dry like that. He tried to make himself look good at the expense of our top WR weapon and it nearly worked. If that had been a noon game instead of a stand-alone game he’d have gotten away with it.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3213 posts
Posted on 10/23/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Have people on here said olave is an alpha wr1? I think most think he is a very good wr2.

Funny thing is I remember you very vividly disagreeing when I was calling Olave a chain moving WR2, even going so far as to ignore a 12 minute video I posted of Olave getting first downs.
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