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Looking at next week (draft position)

Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11916 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:07 am
Saints are a 14-pt dog
Panthers are a 7.5-pt dog
Jaguars are a 4.5-pt dog
Bears are a 9.5-pt dog
Jets are a 2.5-pt dog
Raiders are a 5.5-pt dog

That's the 4-win teams and us. Not sure about any of the tie breakers except raiders. Either way, doesn't look good for us moving up.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
26882 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:13 am to
Is tiebreaker for draft position determined by conference and then division record or is it vice-versa to what I said?


Edit: Either way, there a few 4-win teams we wouldnt jump in front of for draft position even if they win and we lose.
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 10:15 am
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12284 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Bears are a 9.5-pt dog


are the packers playing for anything? packers cant win the division and secured a wild card spot.

quote:

Jaguars are a 4.5-pt dog


they can definitely beat the colts.

Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1942 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:27 am to
Don’t think the packers nor the chargers are playing for anything. I’d expect a lot of these lines to move.
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
12717 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:50 am to
Suntiger posted this in another thread when I asked the same question:
quote:

According to Tankathon, the highest we can go is 8 and the lowest we can go is 10th.

To get to 8th we need the Bears to beat the Packers in Green Bay and the Raiders to beat the Chargers. And we would have to lose next week.

1. New England Patriots: 3-13 record; .465 SOS
2. Tennessee Titans: 3-13; .509 SOS
3. New York Giants: 3-13; .551 SOS
4. Cleveland Browns: 3-12; .537 SOS
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-12; .472 SOS
6. New York Jets: 4-12; .496 SOS
7. Carolina Panthers: 4-12; .498 SOS
8. Las Vegas Raiders: 4-12; .546 SOS
9. Chicago Bears: 4-12; .553 SOS
10. New Orleans Saints: 5-11; .513 SOS
11. San Francisco 49ers: 6-9; .563 SOS
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11916 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 11:58 am to
Perfect. Thanks

Just hope we can end up with burden.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38340 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Not sure about any of the tie breakers except raiders.


I thought the head to head was a no brainer but apparently SOS is the first determining factor

quote:

In situations where teams finished the previous season with identical records, the determination of draft position is decided by strength of schedule — the aggregate winning percentage of a team’s opponents. The team that played the schedule with the lowest winning percentage will be awarded the higher pick.


If the teams have the same strength of schedule, division or conference tiebreakers are applied. If the divisional or conference tiebreakers are not applicable, or ties still exist between teams of different conferences, ties will be broken the following tie-breaking method:

Head-to-head, if applicable
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games (minimum of four)
Strength of victory in all games
Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed in all games
Best net points in all games
Best net touchdowns in all games
Coin toss


Here is the

5. Jacksonville SOS .472

6. Carolina SOS .496

7. NY Jets SOS .502

8. Las Vegas SOS .544

9. Chicago SOS .554

10. New Orleans SOS .507

11. San Francisco SOS .565

I think if Chicago and Vegas win they will pass us based on SOS. The Jets may pass us if everything goes right but I think that is iffy at best. The irony here is if the Panthers beat us that actually helps our SOS and hurts theirs. If everything goes right, the Saints' SOS only drops to .505. One reason is all the NFC South and NFC East teams play each other as do the Chiefs & Broncos so 1 win and 1 loss offset each other and only minimally affect the SOS.

So I think best case the Saint pick at #8 and worst case they pick right where they are at #10 though I think #9 is a possibility.
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
1942 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 1:48 pm to
If they’re picking in the top 10 and pick burden I’d come unglued. I think he’s def a first rounder but there’s going to be players ranked much higher than him available.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3691 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:28 pm to
Man, this was a horrible season and we still only pick 10th in the draft.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11916 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:45 pm to
Best draft we've had we picked 11th. Maybe we can catch lightning in a bottle again
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
124102 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Man, this was a horrible season and we still only pick 10th in the draft.



Its crazy how bad the bottom of the league is this year
Posted by AlabamasSalaryCap
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2012
2831 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:50 pm to
Blocking that fricking fieldgoal likely dropped us from top 5 to #10. Hope it was worth it.
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
7714 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

erfect. Thanks

Just hope we can end up with burden.


I would lose my shite. Have you watched him one single time this season. Not highlights. A game.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11916 posts
Posted on 12/30/24 at 5:52 pm to
Yeah, I have. He's still the same guy that was 3rd in the sec in receiving in 2023 behind nabors and legette. He's projected right around where we'll pick, and we desperately need a wr. I'd prefer the Arizona guy, but he'll be gone

Tre Harris would be a good guy later on to get if we go LOS at 10
This post was edited on 12/30/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31329 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Best draft we've had we picked 11th. Maybe we can catch lightning in a bottle again


Almost had Mahomes in that draft.
Posted by Whodat4300
Tennessee
Member since Jul 2020
987 posts
Posted on 12/31/24 at 1:24 pm to
Huh? We’ve picked much higher than that before, multiple times.
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