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re: Jimmy Graham and Saints reached agreement - 4 year 40 Mil / 21 Mil Guaranteed

Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:52 am to
Posted by Hoodoo Man
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:52 am to
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The Saints play none of them until the playoffs or Super Bowl
Oh, well, we can lose those games, no problem.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:54 am to
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Brees only threw a pass toward Graham 40 times in the 2013 season against a cornerback. Graham caught 22 of those passes (55 percent success rate).


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Graham finished with 90 catches for 1,267 yards and 16 touchdowns last season, including the postseason. Only 20 of his receptions were made against a cornerback, for 258 yards and four touchdowns. Graham caught a pass only 12 percent of the time a cornerback covered him.


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dont get me wrong, i absolutely love the signing. but he is stoppable. hopefully he learns and continues to improve even more.
Posted by hg
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:59 am to
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:01 am to
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Oh, well, we can lose those games, no problem.


Nah. Just more time to game plan for that now. I don't see 1 guy stopping Jimmy anymore. They'll have a way to counter that. Running the ball helps a lot. Put Jimmy on the line and see if a CB goes down into the box. He won't. They'll get him if he is out wide. They will create the mismatches.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:02 am to
But we signed him, so he's good against corners now.

Being serious, off course his numbers are going to go down being covered by corners because they're usually the best in coverage on defense. He's still not bad against corners.

And IF teams try to put their best corners on him the whole time, I feel that we have the o-line AND the other receiving threats to make them pay.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:05 am to
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the other receiving threats to make them pay.


this is probably the best argument, mostly because of Stills being in his second year and the addition of Cooks. The o-line could still be an issue if center doesnt get solidified in training camp.

its not that his numbers "dipped" when on a cover. they were significantly worse. hes amazing at mismatches. i just hope he realizes he still has a lot of areas for improvement.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:11 am to
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i just hope he realizes he still has a lot of areas for improvement.


I hope he realizes how big he is and that he shouldn't let smaller corners/safetys push him around. He seems to like using his speed and height to his advantage but not his body, which is crazy.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:11 am to
If other teams put their best corner on Jimmy, Colston, Cooks, or Stills will be running free against a lesser defender. I have hope of this offense rivaling the 2011 offense.
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:12 am to
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this is probably the best argument, mostly because of Stills being in his second year and the addition of Cooks. The o-line could still be an issue if center doesnt get solidified in training camp.

its not that his numbers "dipped" when on a cover. they were significantly worse. hes amazing at mismatches. i just hope he realizes he still has a lot of areas for improvement.


It can't be worse than last year right? DLP was pretty horrid, Brown couldn't block a player crawling, Evans is healthier compared to last year, and Armstead looked like the real deal in the last few games.

I think the OL will be fine, here's to hoping thats true and every WR we have makes a big stride (even old reliable - Colston)
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22757 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:15 am to
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So they could conceivably have his bases salary this year at ~2 million, which would mean that our cap space situation would not be affected at all.



Saw a report that this year's cap number is 4 mil.

Jumps to 8 or so next year.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:19 am to
I don't know why I never think of Stills when looking at this offense. Year 2 with Drew and this offense should be something special to watch.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22757 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:23 am to
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I don't know why I never think of Stills when looking at this offense. Year 2 with Drew and this offense should be something special to watch.


Colston is said to be as healthy as ever too. Morgan showed some skills and Toon too.

Cooks is the wildcard.

They are young and talented at WR. They just need someone to step up.

I think the OLine will be better. Year 2 with the new OLine coach and a new starting center.

Does anyone find it weird that we are talking about what worries us about the Offense and not all that worried about Defense?
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:26 am to
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Does anyone find it weird that we are talking about what worries us about the Offense and not all that worried about Defense?


how crazy is this? never even crossed my mind. who wouldve thought this day would come?
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:26 am to
It's amazing that only 2 years ago we were the worst ever. Now, this season, we will be possibly top 3.

I can't help but be excited for such a stacked team. If Cooks starts off like we think he can, this team will be unbelievable.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:27 am to
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It's amazing that only 2 years ago we were the worst ever. Now, this season, we will be possibly top 3.


Turnovers. It's what I want to see more than anything else this year. Take some pressure off the offense.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:31 am to
Yeah and that's why Byrd is such a huge fit for us. It's something we desperately need and that's one of his huge specialties.
Posted by htran90
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Member since Dec 2012
30131 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 11:36 am to
I honestly couldn't care less if we rank top 5 defensively.

If we could be top 10-15 in yards/points AND top 10-15 in turnovers (compared to being what...bottom 5(?) last year) that would be more beneficial to the team than what happened last year.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:15 pm to
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Not sure why you are throwing Sean Payton into the retirement talk.



Remember when they were doing this two years ago? Saying Payton would only be around only a couple more years.. Never really made sense.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
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Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:37 pm to
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If other teams put their best corner on Jimmy, Colston, Cooks, or Stills will be running free against a lesser defender. I have hope of this offense rivaling the 2011 offense.


It really should be something special
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