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re: I really want Mansoor Delane
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:14 pm to Magazine St
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:14 pm to Magazine St
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He’s the best corner available but he’s not seen as an elite corner What part of his game isn’t elite to you? No TDs and penalties given up for a full season is pretty damn elite to me.
Well you’re wrong. He’s got average size and speed
Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:38 pm to Lsujacket66
quote:Mansoor Delane is the same size as Derek Stingley who went #3. And why don't we wait on his 40 time before considering his speed average. Seemed plenty fast enough in college.
He’s got average size and speed
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:05 pm to Lsujacket66
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He’s the best corner available but he’s not seen as an elite corner
lol wut?
His NFL draft comp is first team all pro Quinyon Mitchell.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:08 pm to boxcar willie
Good God where do you idiots come from
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:36 pm to Vacherie Saint
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His NFL draft comp is first team all pro Quinyon Mitchell.
Uh..
Draft Combine Profile
6-0, 195
31" arms (34th percentile)
40: 4.33
10: 1.51
Vert: 38"
Broad: 10-2
Delane's arms are 30" (10th percentile)
Delane didn't run at the combine. It's doubtful he can do better at LSU's pro day on faster surfaces. I doubt they are comparable after he actually works out (and that's the point)
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
This is silly.
The ranges for NFL corners are so tight. Maybe 20lbs and 7 inches separate the biggest and smallest guys at the position with some serious outliers pulling the ranges out. Arm length is even tighter.
Don’t overthink this. Delanes size isn’t an issue.
The ranges for NFL corners are so tight. Maybe 20lbs and 7 inches separate the biggest and smallest guys at the position with some serious outliers pulling the ranges out. Arm length is even tighter.
Don’t overthink this. Delanes size isn’t an issue.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:45 pm to Vacherie Saint
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This is silly.
Delane's issues have always been associated with his athleticism.
He was so concerned about that he didn't run at the combine
Mitchell did run at his combine and showed he was an elite athlete
There are nothing alike.
quote:
Don’t overthink this. Delanes size isn’t an issue.
That's just a part of it. His athleticism is the issue. It was not an issue with Mitchell which makes the comp silly.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Seems his athleticism is on tape. If people think he didn't cover well against some good competition then they won't draft him.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:04 pm to goatmilker
CB is a position where athletic testing matters in the NFL.
It's like WRs this year. The debate is about prospect quality v. positional value. CB and WR have great positional value, but there isn't elite talent at the positions this year.
In a normal draft with normal CB talent, Delane would be fine value in the late 1st or 2nd (like Tate). He's probably going to have to play in zones almost exclusively and older types of zones that aren't as man-influenced like the modern zones.
It's just a weird draft. Do we want a potential HOF IOL or a mid CB/WR?
If Downs didn't have concerns, he'd be perfect at 8 (with safety positional value increasing with the new Ds coming out)
It's like WRs this year. The debate is about prospect quality v. positional value. CB and WR have great positional value, but there isn't elite talent at the positions this year.
In a normal draft with normal CB talent, Delane would be fine value in the late 1st or 2nd (like Tate). He's probably going to have to play in zones almost exclusively and older types of zones that aren't as man-influenced like the modern zones.
It's just a weird draft. Do we want a potential HOF IOL or a mid CB/WR?
If Downs didn't have concerns, he'd be perfect at 8 (with safety positional value increasing with the new Ds coming out)
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ll take THE NFL scout who made the comp’s word over yours, but thanks anyway.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I’ll take THE NFL scout who made the comp’s word over yours
Why take his word when you can look at the combine testing yourself?
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Because I’m not an NFL scout? And neither are you. And the kids tape is elite.
Look. I know your schtick so I won’t indulge this too much but it seems fairly clear what he’s doing. He was probably playing at around 180 at LSU and needed to be bigger for the combine, which would have hurt his 40 time… cant do anything about his arms. He can run at his pro day with added time for training. Or maybe he has a minor injury. If he weighs again at his pro day, it’ll be telling.
The slot values fall off a cliff after pick 5, so he’s probably just playing the system like most of these guys do. It’s not that big a deal.
Look. I know your schtick so I won’t indulge this too much but it seems fairly clear what he’s doing. He was probably playing at around 180 at LSU and needed to be bigger for the combine, which would have hurt his 40 time… cant do anything about his arms. He can run at his pro day with added time for training. Or maybe he has a minor injury. If he weighs again at his pro day, it’ll be telling.
The slot values fall off a cliff after pick 5, so he’s probably just playing the system like most of these guys do. It’s not that big a deal.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:44 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He was probably playing at around 180 at LSU and needed to be bigger for the combine, which would have hurt his 40 time
His athleticism issues were known prior to coming to LSU. It's not about his weight.
The question is where his athleticism is, exactly. I think he'll be average but nothing special or close to elite.
Mitchell had no such questions with his athleticism. He ran a 4.33
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
He’s projected to run sub 4.4. So unless he runs a 4.3, the top CB in the draft, who scouts are calling “highly athletic” and a “top 10-12 corner in the league pretty quickly” is unathletic?
Stick to blowing Jack Smith on the poli board.
Stick to blowing Jack Smith on the poli board.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:14 pm to Safety Blitz
Somebody (Chiefs) is going to move up to get him.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:18 pm to moneyg
I don't know if he fits the Chiefs' CB profile. That would mean they're moving to more of a zone system which would be weird for Spags
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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He’s projected to run sub 4.4.
By whom?
Most I see says mid 4.4 at best
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
CB is a position where athletic testing matters in the NFL.
I think most in the business use their eyes. Maybe just me
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:35 pm to Safety Blitz
It would be a waste of his talent to put him in this defense. He needs to go to a man scheme.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sorry sub 4.44. 70th percentile
#unathletic
#unathletic
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