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re: I really want Mansoor Delane

Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by Lsujacket66
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:14 pm to
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He’s the best corner available but he’s not seen as an elite corner What part of his game isn’t elite to you? No TDs and penalties given up for a full season is pretty damn elite to me.

Well you’re wrong. He’s got average size and speed
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 5:38 pm to
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He’s got average size and speed
Mansoor Delane is the same size as Derek Stingley who went #3. And why don't we wait on his 40 time before considering his speed average. Seemed plenty fast enough in college.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:05 pm to
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He’s the best corner available but he’s not seen as an elite corner



lol wut?

His NFL draft comp is first team all pro Quinyon Mitchell.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 6:09 pm
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:08 pm to
Good God where do you idiots come from
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:36 pm to
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His NFL draft comp is first team all pro Quinyon Mitchell.

Uh..

Draft Combine Profile

6-0, 195
31" arms (34th percentile)

40: 4.33
10: 1.51
Vert: 38"
Broad: 10-2

Delane's arms are 30" (10th percentile)

Delane didn't run at the combine. It's doubtful he can do better at LSU's pro day on faster surfaces. I doubt they are comparable after he actually works out (and that's the point)
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:42 pm to
This is silly.

The ranges for NFL corners are so tight. Maybe 20lbs and 7 inches separate the biggest and smallest guys at the position with some serious outliers pulling the ranges out. Arm length is even tighter.

Don’t overthink this. Delanes size isn’t an issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:45 pm to
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This is silly.

Delane's issues have always been associated with his athleticism.

He was so concerned about that he didn't run at the combine

Mitchell did run at his combine and showed he was an elite athlete

There are nothing alike.

quote:

Don’t overthink this. Delanes size isn’t an issue.

That's just a part of it. His athleticism is the issue. It was not an issue with Mitchell which makes the comp silly.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 6:50 pm to
Seems his athleticism is on tape. If people think he didn't cover well against some good competition then they won't draft him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:04 pm to
CB is a position where athletic testing matters in the NFL.

It's like WRs this year. The debate is about prospect quality v. positional value. CB and WR have great positional value, but there isn't elite talent at the positions this year.

In a normal draft with normal CB talent, Delane would be fine value in the late 1st or 2nd (like Tate). He's probably going to have to play in zones almost exclusively and older types of zones that aren't as man-influenced like the modern zones.

It's just a weird draft. Do we want a potential HOF IOL or a mid CB/WR?

If Downs didn't have concerns, he'd be perfect at 8 (with safety positional value increasing with the new Ds coming out)
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:07 pm to
I’ll take THE NFL scout who made the comp’s word over yours, but thanks anyway.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:20 pm to
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I’ll take THE NFL scout who made the comp’s word over yours

Why take his word when you can look at the combine testing yourself?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47536 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:37 pm to
Because I’m not an NFL scout? And neither are you. And the kids tape is elite.

Look. I know your schtick so I won’t indulge this too much but it seems fairly clear what he’s doing. He was probably playing at around 180 at LSU and needed to be bigger for the combine, which would have hurt his 40 time… cant do anything about his arms. He can run at his pro day with added time for training. Or maybe he has a minor injury. If he weighs again at his pro day, it’ll be telling.

The slot values fall off a cliff after pick 5, so he’s probably just playing the system like most of these guys do. It’s not that big a deal.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 7:44 pm to
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He was probably playing at around 180 at LSU and needed to be bigger for the combine, which would have hurt his 40 time

His athleticism issues were known prior to coming to LSU. It's not about his weight.

The question is where his athleticism is, exactly. I think he'll be average but nothing special or close to elite.

Mitchell had no such questions with his athleticism. He ran a 4.33
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47536 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:12 pm to
He’s projected to run sub 4.4. So unless he runs a 4.3, the top CB in the draft, who scouts are calling “highly athletic” and a “top 10-12 corner in the league pretty quickly” is unathletic?

Stick to blowing Jack Smith on the poli board.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:14 pm to
Somebody (Chiefs) is going to move up to get him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:18 pm to
I don't know if he fits the Chiefs' CB profile. That would mean they're moving to more of a zone system which would be weird for Spags
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:20 pm to
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He’s projected to run sub 4.4.

By whom?

Most I see says mid 4.4 at best
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

CB is a position where athletic testing matters in the NFL.


I think most in the business use their eyes. Maybe just me
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26662 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:35 pm to
It would be a waste of his talent to put him in this defense. He needs to go to a man scheme.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47536 posts
Posted on 3/14/26 at 8:35 pm to
Sorry sub 4.44. 70th percentile

#unathletic
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