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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:26 pm to
I mean top 5 talent wise.

So you would move on from Armstead and create a big hole.

Are you comfortable with peat playing there cause I'm not.

And if you move ram, then who is playing right tackle.
Also none of this matters cause they aren't getting rid of Armstead cause it's crazy and no one gets rid of a guy that young, with that much talent
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:32 pm to
Armstead's injury history probably knocks down his price on the open market. If, because of that, he can be retained at a lower value contract than what his pure ability would dictate then so much the better. I would keep him unless he/his agent puts out some absurd number.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27254 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:46 pm to
He's not a free agent

I don't know why they were even talking about getting rid of him with no one to replace him.

He is very injury prone but until we draft someone to replace him he will be here
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 5:15 pm to
quote:


So you would move on from Armstead and create a big whole.


quote:


And if you move ram, then who is playing right tackle.


He plays 50% of the time, he already creates a big hole. That's the point. You are already replacing him a bunch w Peat and Ramcyzk moving around

There is no denying his talent.

quote:


Also none of this matters cause they aren't getting rid of Armstead cause it's crazy and no one gets rid of a guy that young


He's got a fragile body. You think it gets better? He will be 28 this coming year, and these guys like Unger and Joe Thomas are retiring at 32-33 years old, and they were never injured like Armstead.

He's taking 6% of your cap, he needs to prove he can be healthy or we need to look for a trade
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27254 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 5:29 pm to
And he only has 3 years left on his contract.
He will be about 31 when it ends.

The saints know he is fragile by now
So you want to trade him and all those times they restructured his contract and have all that money come on the books when they are making a final run at a super bowl.
He will make 15 15 and 13mil or so the next 3 years.
That's going to be a big cap hit if they trade him this year.

They should of drafted someone last year of they were going to trade him.

Also he played 600 snaps peat played 740
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 6:38 pm to
When you have arguably the best LT in the game you don’t trade him. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 8:42 pm to
It's ridiculous. You don't trade him, not on this kind of run.

You get a viable backup for sure, but trading him opens up a large can of worms. Don't forget we lost Unger. Losing 2 linemen would be catastrophic.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27254 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:26 pm to
Yep it's crazy talk
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 9:56 pm to


57% of the possible snaps this past season
52% in 2017
34% in 2016



Unger - 95%, 100%, 96%
Peat - 90%, 88%, 70%
Ram - 100%, 95%
Warford - 80%, 93%


This is make or break year for Armstead. If he's injured again he wont be on this team the following year, book it tranny
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49517 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

This is make or break year for Armstead. If he's injured again he wont be on this team the following year, book it tranny



Meh. If he misses 4+ games, they'll draft a swing LT/LG/RT type player, then renegotiate his contract.

I can very well see the Saints coming to Armstead with a position like "We like you, but you're not on the field enough. We can cut you and you can take your chances, or we can cut your base salaries by ~75%, but with playing time/Pro Bowl/All Pro incentives to essentially keep your contract as is."



Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27254 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:28 pm to
What is your fed of hurt.
If its only a few games and it depends which games then he will be back.

Also he won't take a pay cut unless it's a serious serious injury.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:07 pm to
Dude you're crazy. Peat plays more than Armstead and is the one getting pancaked instead of him laying the pancakes on DL. You saw how much this line struggled when Armstead is not in the lineup. If you think the Saints would be smarter to get rid of a top 5 talent LT you're insane. It doesn't matter how many games he's missed the past few years they're not getting rid of a guy who has the ability of any top LT in the league right now.

Peat plays more than him and his cap number is big. He's not that good either so what does that say about his production being paid? I'd take a guy who has top 5 LT talent in the league right now over a guy who plays more than him but is usually on his arse during the football game getting our QB killed. Armstead is such a big impact on this team his presence is felt whether he's on the field or not. If anything, when he's not playing you see how vital he is to that line and Brees not being snapped in half.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 11:10 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Dude you're crazy.


Wait, y’all keep saying I’m crazy and going to great lengths to say how great Armstead is. Y’all aren’t gonna even acknowledge he’s played 48% of snaps the last three seasons? Anyone? This isn’t a one year issuesz Do you not realize how detrimental that is to a team? Armstead is your second biggest cap hit behind Brees. Blink if you understand


Anyway, Peat sucks when he has to play tackle..

He has to play tackle because Armstead is always hurt. Armstead has single handedly made Peat a must keep for this roster despite his deficiencies at tackle. That really puts ya in a pickle if you love Armstead and hate peat



Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27254 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:49 am to
I understand he misses some games but it was the same issue twice, correct?

Wasn't it a torn labrum
He does get hurt alot and u do have to carry a good swing tackle but what is th3 other option?
Please tell me your plan
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30111 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

This is make or break year for Armstead. If he's injured again he wont be on this team the following year, book it tranny


Never said anything past this year. I agree, there needs to be a contingency, but it's not this year unless they draft someone, which I think they should.

But assuming brees ends this year? It'd be a bad idea to trade or cut him now. Armstead for half the year is more valuable than anything you can gain from him being traded or cut. If he plays half, it allows you to groom someone for half the year instead of rushing a rookie into the lineup.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 5:38 pm to
I realize he is not a free agent this year. When you make personnel moves (or speculate about them) you also think ahead.
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