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re: Hometown discount on Brees...
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:45 am to saints5021
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:45 am to saints5021
If you were 42 years old, retired, had 100 million dollars, 4 kids, and absolutely no family connection to New Orleans, where would you chose to live and raise your family:
New Orleans or San Diego?
I mean...come on.
New Orleans or San Diego?
I mean...come on.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:47 am to Disgeaux Bob
People are going to downvote you but if the dude really cares about winning and isn't all about the benjamins, he'll sacrifice a little dough to hoist that Lombardi again.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:50 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Company A tells you they want you to take a pay cut.
Company B tells you that they want to give you a significant raise.
Who are you working for? I'm sure there will be many honest answers here.
Straw man.
There so many other factors in play here.
Which has a better working environment? Does one require a move to a new city or state? How does my family feel about the new city? Who are the people I'm going to be working with at this new company? Are they going to make my work life miserable?
It's not all about money for some people. Some people are willing to take a small pay cut if it means a better working environment, doing what they enjoy, living in the location they want to live, etc.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:51 am to nola000
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Straw man.
There so many other factors in play here.
Which has a better working environment? Does one require a move to a new city or state? How does my family feel about the new city? Who are the people I'm going to be working with at this new company? Are they going to make my work life miserable?
It's not all about money for some people. Some people are willing to take a small pay cut if it means a better working environment, doing what they enjoy, living in the location they want to live, etc.
HOW DARE YOU POST FACTS HERE THAT OCCUR IN REAL LIFE!
Posted on 1/13/20 at 10:54 am to Fun Bunch
obviously with all the taxes and regulations and homeless and left wing fricktards in california! oh and all illegal aliens! yay!
and yes i lived in cali all over to be exact and yes in san diego for a time.
beautiful state ruined by left wingers
and yes i lived in cali all over to be exact and yes in san diego for a time.
beautiful state ruined by left wingers
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:06 am to tduecen
quote:A top 5 salary for Brees is quite literally a fair price.
He will when he gives New Orleans a fair price instead of shooting for a top 5 salary.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:08 am to Northshore Saint
quote:None of that gives anyone any more reason to tell someone else what they should do with their money when they wouldn't do the same. Not even a little bit.
That makes sense if you're a player that hasn't made it yet. Brees is one of the very few that has made life changing money for himself and his kids. He could have walked away from football at any time in the last 5 years and still be set for life and a lock for the Hall of Fame.
quote:You willing to take a 50% paycut so your company can succeed in its industry?
The Saints have finite resources to put a roster together, one where he needs maybe a little more help than in the past due to physical limitations. If he desperately wants another championship with the Saints then he has to realize he's hurting any chance of that happening if he demands max value.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:10 am to Sentrius
quote:Ah yes, Drew Brees doesn't care all that much about winning a Super Bowl because he signs fair market contracts like basically every other player in the NFL.
or he really cares all that much about winning a second super bowl.
quote:I legit knew you'd throw that in the moment you said he doesn't really care. Did you watch any games this weekend? He did the same thing every player does after the game.
Him yucking it up with Vikings players after the playoff game is solid evidence of that.
Some of you folks really never deserved a QB like Brees on your favorite team, it's embarrassing to be a fan of the same team as some of you guys.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:11 am to Fun Bunch
quote:He doesn't care about New Orleans, or winning a Super Bowl, he only ever cared about money with the Saints!!!!!
If you were 42 years old, retired, had 100 million dollars, 4 kids, and absolutely no family connection to New Orleans, where would you chose to live and raise your family:
New Orleans or San Diego?
I mean...come on.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:13 am to nola000
quote:You're reaching and making things up in order to avoid the question at its core. You know what he's asking.
Straw man.
There so many other factors in play here.
quote:Except folk aren't asking Brees to take a small paycut, they're asking him to take upwards of 50% less than his fair market value.
Some people are willing to take a small pay cut if it means a better working environment, doing what they enjoy, living in the location they want to live, etc.
Are you willing to take 50% less of your value at your job so your company can succeed? I didn't think so, but you guys have no problem telling someone else to do that thing that you won't do.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:17 am to Disgeaux Bob
Brees first deal was 6 years, $60 million.
Brees correctly feels like he got the short end of that deal and he would be correct.
Yes it was a risk for the Saints at the time but it turned out to be the deal of a lifetime for the Saints. Not so much for Brees.
He's probably not inclined to play for a discount.
Brees correctly feels like he got the short end of that deal and he would be correct.
Yes it was a risk for the Saints at the time but it turned out to be the deal of a lifetime for the Saints. Not so much for Brees.
He's probably not inclined to play for a discount.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:21 am to Tiger985
quote:Some fans don't care about stuff like that because it does nothing for them.
Brees first deal was 6 years, $60 million.
Brees correctly feels like he got the short end of that deal and he would be correct.
Yes it was a risk for the Saints at the time but it turned out to be the deal of a lifetime for the Saints. Not so much for Brees.
He's probably not inclined to play for a discount.
But yes, that's a great point. He wayyyyy outplayed that contract.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:42 am to Disgeaux Bob
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Old boy has a reported net worth of nearly 100 million
Those online “net worth” sites are complete and utter bullshite. They don’t take into account taxes, agent fees, yearly spending by said person, etc..
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:43 am to shel311
One other aspect of this is that the NFL QB market is so small that what one starting QB negotiates has a big impact on setting the market value for the position. I believe Drew is or was a big player with the players union. I don't think he will ever take any discount to help the Saints at the expense of the players union.
As far as the Saints are concerned, unless they draft a QB high who can start as a rookie, your best bet is to pay DB year-to-year at market value. For some reason CSP has a reputation for developing QBs, but I have yet to see it. DB fell in his lap and he hasn't developed anyone since then. No heir apparent either. Will be interesting to see what happens in April.
As far as the Saints are concerned, unless they draft a QB high who can start as a rookie, your best bet is to pay DB year-to-year at market value. For some reason CSP has a reputation for developing QBs, but I have yet to see it. DB fell in his lap and he hasn't developed anyone since then. No heir apparent either. Will be interesting to see what happens in April.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 11:44 am to Disgeaux Bob
Let’s see what TB12 does then we’ll figure out Drew. If Brady signs for a lot less, Drew will have to too.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:02 pm to shel311
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Are you willing to take 50% less of your value at your job so your company can succeed? I didn't think so, but you guys have no problem telling someone else to do that thing that you won't do
You don't know that.
I don't really care that much about money. If I had Drew Brees money, I would care even less about money.
And you're moving the goalposts. Nobody's asking him to take a pay cut so his 'company' can succeed. We're saying he should do it so he can succeed. If he really cares. If he really cares about winning that is, he'll take a pay cut so that the team can put more pieces around him so he can hoist another Lombardi. Either that or he can add another faceless 10 million to his already existing tens of millions.
At some point he'll look back in his life and maybe wish he had spent the money to buy another Lombardi. That's what he has to ask himself. How much is he willing to pay for another Super Bowl because that's what it comes down to.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 12:32 pm to nola000
quote:Actually you are
And you're moving the goalposts
quote:This is such bullshite and I'm 100% certain you know it is, but you're still saying it. Brees can get $35mil next season and still really care about winning.
If he really cares about winning that is, he'll take a pay cut
quote:Earlier you said he should take a litlle less, now you're saying he should take $10mil less? Which is it?
Either that or he can add another faceless 10 million to his already existing tens of millions.
So if he gets $28mil, you'll come back here and concede that Brees took a discount and really wants to win, right? Because at $28mli, he wil
quote:"You don't kno that." Funny how that works. You call me out for speaking for others then you speak for others.
At some point he'll look back in his life and maybe wish he had spent the money to buy another Lombardi.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:20 pm to nola000
Man it would be a downer to give back 10 million of your salary just so your company can hire two more guys who end up really sucking at their jobs.
Just a weird thought yall continue.
Just a weird thought yall continue.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:31 pm to nola000
quote:
If I had Drew Brees money, I would care even less about money.
bingo
quote:
We're saying he should do it so he can succeed. If he really cares. If he really cares about winning that is, he'll take a pay cut so that the team can put more pieces around him so he can hoist another Lombardi. Either that or he can add another faceless 10 million to his already existing tens of millions.
At some point he'll look back in his life and maybe wish he had spent the money to buy another Lombardi. That's what he has to ask himself. How much is he willing to pay for another Super Bowl because that's what it comes down to.
u make too much sense please stop. not allowed here.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 3:56 pm to Andynola
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Can't he just play for league minimum?
what most idiots on here fail to accept as reality is, $30 mil ids league minimum for a starting QB and the going rate for a top 5 QB is $40 mil plus
brees is already offering us a home town discount to play for league minimum at $30 mil
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