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Here is the correct list of issues with the offense, in order
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:11 am
O-line
O-line
Lack of adjustments
Situational playcalling
You can't be a successful offense if your oline can run or pass block, you can't run what you want when you're so limited on the line that you're getting busts all over the line. You can scheme a weak tackle or a subpar guard, but when it's everyone, yikes.
For that Pete gets a pass.
What he sure as frick doesn't get a pass on is his playcalling. It's awful. We went run run pass late in the game after a huge stop backed up on our own end zone.
No one does that anymore, there's so much analytical data that proves that you shouldn't, and the one true strength of our offense (wr) tells you not to run run pass in that situation.
He has no idea how to adjust. The minute Jameis came in the game he ran a quick 5 yard out to Juwan and I thought great, he's trying to get him in a rhythm.
He immediately went run run pass run. Timeout, inc, punt.
How are you building confidence in your qb by doing that? How does that establish rhythm and utilize your best assets on offense?
It's fricking criminal how bad we are on the offensive line, and Pete is fricking useless to fix it.
Sunday should be a fricking w. But with these issues we'll be on the fricking struggle bus all game.
O-line
Lack of adjustments
Situational playcalling
You can't be a successful offense if your oline can run or pass block, you can't run what you want when you're so limited on the line that you're getting busts all over the line. You can scheme a weak tackle or a subpar guard, but when it's everyone, yikes.
For that Pete gets a pass.
What he sure as frick doesn't get a pass on is his playcalling. It's awful. We went run run pass late in the game after a huge stop backed up on our own end zone.
No one does that anymore, there's so much analytical data that proves that you shouldn't, and the one true strength of our offense (wr) tells you not to run run pass in that situation.
He has no idea how to adjust. The minute Jameis came in the game he ran a quick 5 yard out to Juwan and I thought great, he's trying to get him in a rhythm.
He immediately went run run pass run. Timeout, inc, punt.
How are you building confidence in your qb by doing that? How does that establish rhythm and utilize your best assets on offense?
It's fricking criminal how bad we are on the offensive line, and Pete is fricking useless to fix it.
Sunday should be a fricking w. But with these issues we'll be on the fricking struggle bus all game.
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Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:43 am to whatiknowsofar
Remember seeing a stat last year about how the Saints were ranked 32nd in pre-snap movement. And as I type this, it does seem like we are doing the same thing all over again. Yet, you always hear the announcers talking about how a player going in motion, at the very least, helps determine man/zone defense.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 10:50 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Remember seeing a stat last year about how the Saints were ranked 32nd in pre-snap movement. And as I type this, it does seem like we are doing the same thing all over again. Yet, you always hear the announcers talking about how a player going in motion, at the very least, helps determine man/zone defense
Weird thing is Peyton manning never used motion.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:03 am to thermal9221
This league may never see another QB as cerebral as Peyton again. And with the QBs we've had the past 2 years; our offensive play calling needs to do everything they can to help the QBs
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:03 am to thermal9221
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Weird thing is Peyton manning never used motion.
Peyton knew what defense you were going to run. He didn't need it.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:04 am to Weekend Warrior79
Lol I don’t disagree
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:11 am to whatiknowsofar
Our QBs can’t even get off quick passes before getting hit and y’all are wondering why Pete doesn’t want to pass a lot? Run blocking at least has been pedestrian, pass blocking is nonexistent
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:15 am to whatiknowsofar
I believe on our first seven first down plays we ran six times. None with much success.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 11:57 am to 1609tiger
No, the No. 1 issue is Dennis Allen. He's the leader of the shite show.
It's his responsibility along with Loomis to see the glaring holes on the OL and playcalling and fill them.
Issues with offense are:
1. Shitty HC
2. Shitty OC
3. Mediocre and regressing OL talent
4. QB who holds the ball too long
It's his responsibility along with Loomis to see the glaring holes on the OL and playcalling and fill them.
Issues with offense are:
1. Shitty HC
2. Shitty OC
3. Mediocre and regressing OL talent
4. QB who holds the ball too long
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:12 pm to whatiknowsofar
I am hoping that once Kamara is back it will give the QBs a very acceptable out. The line can usually hold up long enough for 2 down field reads and if it isn't there then dump off to Kamara in the flat. That is usually good for 4-6 yards. If they peel off a LB to guard him then that's one less rusher giving the OL a little more time.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:41 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You can't be a successful offense if your oline can run or pass block, you can't run what you want when you're so limited on the line that you're getting busts all over the line. You can scheme a weak tackle or a subpar guard, but when it's everyone, yikes.
For that Pete gets a pass.
Completely disagree with this. You coach what you have and you adjust to what you have. There is no throw your hands up and say it is what it is.
The OC has to know the issue and be creative to expose the other sides weakness that is inherent on your weakness. I do not expect 100 success, but id expect a good OC can adjust to a new scheme that would be successful enough to get you one or two successful drives when you have to have it.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:50 pm to whatiknowsofar
You fail to ask why Carr or even JW hold the ball so long on many plays resulting in sacks not on the oline.
OC
OL
HC
OC
OL
HC
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:07 pm to whatiknowsofar
4 first rounders and 1 second rounder and it still sucks. Dang, it's not for lack of trying.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:11 pm to whatiknowsofar
The first two make all else irrelevant
Posted on 9/26/23 at 3:58 pm to goatmilker
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You fail to ask why Carr or even JW hold the ball so long on many plays resulting in sacks not on the oline.
Because the scheme of the wr routes suck. When you have 2,3 receivers within yds of each other the field gets a little crowded with defensive players. Pete can't even design the quick slat to Thomas that was an automatic 5 yds. Pete also can't get the in/out route to work that was an automatic 7yds.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 6:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
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For that Pete gets a pass
Until we see how he uses Kamara this should be the case.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 7:20 pm to tzimme4
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For that Pete gets a pass
About the only thing that has not changed on the offensive side of the ball is Pete. 23rd in scoring last two years. Worse this year.
We have studs.
We have almost nothing to show for it.
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