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re: GMFB is roasting officiating this morning
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:42 am to infantry1026
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:42 am to infantry1026
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Item 1. Forward Movement of Hand
When a player is in control of the ball and is attempting to pass it forward, any intentional forward movement of his hand starts a forward pass.
If contact by an opponent materially affects a passer after the passer begins his throwing motion, it is a forward pass if he passes the ball, regardless of where the ball strikes the ground, a player, an official, or anything else. When this occurs, intentional grounding rules do not apply.
When a passer intends to throw a forward pass and is contacted by an opponent before beginning his throwing motion, the direction of the pass is the responsibility of the passer if he passes the ball, and intentional grounding rules apply.
If, after an intentional forward movement of his hand, the passer loses possession of the ball during an attempt to bring it back toward his body, it is a fumble.
If the passer loses possession of the ball while attempting to re-cock his arm, it is a fumble.
This is the part that pisses me off. The definition states (is even titled) forward movement of the hand. NOT upward movement of the hand.
"When a law is clear and unambiguous in Louisiana, it must be applied exactly as written without searching for the legislature's intent".
Obviously not Louisiana law but still applicable. Nowhere in there is upward movement of the hand ever stated or implied.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:52 am to mdomingue
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At that point the question becomes did he start his throwing motion before or after contact was made.
They are correct that Goff raising his arm was him initiating the throwing motion. It was also correct that his initial intent would be to throw the ball forward (as his received was upfield) and the contact made the ball go backwards.
HOWEVER, unless I missed something on the replay, they missed the part that the ball came loose before his arm started going forward. You can't have intent to throw forward if you do not have the ball in your hand when you start throwing.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:58 am to Weekend Warrior79
quote:show me where in the rules raising his arm is the initiation of a pass.
They are correct that Goff raising his arm was him initiating the throwing motion.
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 9:59 am
Posted on 9/14/26 at 9:59 am to infantry1026
So if Darnold gets hit on this play, it’s incomplete?
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:04 am to Neauxla
Replay in its current form allows for over-writing the rules & over-officiating the game
The ball should be the arbiter of the play... not a millisecond on a replay screen
The ball should be the arbiter of the play... not a millisecond on a replay screen
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:04 am to mdomingue
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a passer after the passer begins his throwing motion,
This is the part thats silly as shite.
IF you told tossed me a football and said "throw the ball"...id probably do a lil spin of the ball, pat it, take a deep breath, do a 3 step drop and then wind up and let if fly.
Is ALL of that part of my throwing motion.
If you wrote a rule that has 99% of humans on earth saying thats a fumble, and the rule says its not, its a bad rule.
Baseball has a lot of little obscure rules that SEEM arbitrary but are actually completely rationale when you consider whats happening.
Football is fricking littered with stupid shite that makes no sense and goes against what we all know in our guts.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:08 am to mdomingue
The rule is correct however this is the definition of throwing motion from the NFL
In the NFL Rulebook, the beginning of a quarterback's passing or throwing motion is officially defined as the exact moment the throwing arm moves forward with forward intent.
In the NFL Rulebook, the beginning of a quarterback's passing or throwing motion is officially defined as the exact moment the throwing arm moves forward with forward intent.
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:43 am to T20
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We can almost expect a similar thing will happen to Shough and the touchdown will stand.
ALMOST????
There aren’t 5 other teams in the NFL that have that play called the same way as the Saints yesterday.
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