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re: Fully loaded 9mm found in Smiths car
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
You think the only thing that could make a 6'6" NFL athlete a threat is a weapon?
A gun out of sight shouldn't change anything.
A gun out of sight shouldn't change anything.
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:13 pm to Lester Earl
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and you dont think finding/knowing their was gun changes anything for Hayes?
If Smith's gun was in a compartment, this changes nothing. Where was the forced entry to Hayes home or vehicle in this situation? Hayes shot Smith while Hayes was standing outside of his vehicle. Smith was retreating back to his vehicle. It doesn't matter if Smith intentions were to get his weapon. It wasn't on his person when was shot & killed. Hayes shot Smith in the back.
State of Louisiana STACKKKKKKED!!!
Hayes frickKKKKKED!!!
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:14 pm to Vacherie Saint
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. It was concealed in the car to the extent that the police needed a warrant to find it
according to Fun Bunch they knew about it the night of. It may not have been concealed, and even if it was, there is a chance Hayes felt threatened for his life.
If there is NO GUN, there is no fricking way his LIFE can be THREATENED. None, zero, zilch. We wouldnt even be talking now and all of his charges would stand.
To say it doesnt matter makes no sense. It's one of the keys to the whole malay.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:16 pm to Lester Earl
Based on what has been reported, Smith never pulled his gun. He likely said "I have a gun", but he never pulled it. Hayes opened fire, he should go to jail for quite some time.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:16 pm to Lester Earl
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according to Fun Bunch they knew about it the night of. It may not have been concealed, and even if it was
It's so funny that news reports are no longer good enough for you.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:17 pm to BigBrod81
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Smith was retreating back to his vehicle.
lol, people are stiil saying this shite like they know. Surprised you didnt go with the "Hayes followed Smith back to his car and shot him". That has seemed to be popular.
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It doesn't matter if Smith intentions were to get his weapon. It wasn't on his person when was shot & killed. Hayes shot Smith in the back.
none of this matters if Smith was reaching for a gun after announcing to Hayes he had one on him. At that point Hayes' life is threatened.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:17 pm to 4LSU2
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I'd think the wife gave permission to access anything they need to make sure her husband's killer is locked up forever.
I don't know, maybe she was too busy screaming for help because she was shot in the leg or that she was in the state of shock from just witnessing her husband shot right in front of her face. Where in the hell do you people come from?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:19 pm to Lester Earl
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according to Fun Bunch they knew about it the night of. It may not have been concealed, and even if it was, there is a chance Hayes felt threatened for his life.
That's a guess. Don't cite me.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:19 pm to CocoLoco
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Based on what has been reported, Smith never pulled his gun. He likely said "I have a gun", but he never pulled it. Hayes opened fire, he should go to jail for quite some time.
nothing has come out yet about where they found the gun, or why Smith's back was turned when he was shot. He could have been in the process of pulling his gun from wherever he had it. The people in his car should know.
To simply say "Hayes should go to jail for a long time" without knowing those facts is irresponsible
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:19 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's so funny that news reports are no longer good enough for you.
Did the news report say the weapon was concealed? I only read NOLA.com so idk if i missed something
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:20 pm to Lester Earl
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none of this matters if Smith was reaching for a gun after announcing to Hayes he had one on him. At that point Hayes' life is threatened.
Good luck with that story since no gun was visible on Smith's car or found on his person.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:20 pm to Lester Earl
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there is no fricking way his LIFE can be THREATENED. None, zero, zilch.
Pure speculation here but if a pissed off 6'3 280 pound man was getting aggressive with you you wouldn't fell threatened? Again assuming Smith was getting aggressive. He may have said bitch I'll kill you. Good discussion but until all the facts come out we're all speculating.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's so funny that news reports are no longer good enough for you.
the news hasn't reported anything one way or another on where the gun was found. Just that it was loaded and wasn't used.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:21 pm to GynoSandberg
NOPD said no visible gun found in Smith's vehicle. LE was adamant that news reporting something is all you need to believe it and call it a fact, but he seems to have backtracked from that when the news reported something that hurts his argument.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:21 pm to Sprung
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Pure speculation here but if a pissed off 6'3 280 pound man was getting aggressive with you you wouldn't fell threatened? Again assuming Smith was getting aggressive. He may have said bitch I'll kill you. Good discussion but until all the facts come out we're all speculating.
I see your point, but with the way they found Smith and where he was shot(in the back), this is unlikely
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:22 pm to Lester Earl
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the news hasn't reported anything one way or another on where the gun was found
False. There was no gun found visible in Smith's car.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:23 pm to Lester Earl
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people are stiil saying this shite like they know.
Was Smith not shot standing next to or partially in his vehicle from the pictures posted on Nola.com? If Smith isn't shot near the driver door of his vehicle then how does his wife receive a stray bullet to the leg. You are grasping at straws dude. Maybe you need a break.
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none of this matters if Smith was reaching for a gun after announcing to Hayes he had one on him. At that point Hayes' life is threatened.
If Smith's gun within arms reach or in his possession, there would have been no need to obtain a warrant to search for it. It would have been evidence as part of the crime scene. Derp.Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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NOPD said no visible gun found in Smith's vehicle.
Do u remember which outlet or can u link
id like to read
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to Lester Earl
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according to Fun Bunch they knew about it the night of
Oh well that settles it then.
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It may not have been concealed, and even if it was, there is a chance Hayes felt threatened for his life.
Thats a big if and an even bigger reach. There is literally nothing out there that suggests Smith brandished a gun. If the gun were visible, the police would have had it Sunday and you know it.
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If there is NO GUN, there is no fricking way his LIFE can be THREATENED. None, zero, zilch. We wouldnt even be talking now and all of his charges would stand.
I think you may have meant to say, his charges would NOT stand. Either way, before you knew Smith had a gun, you were knighting your arse of for Hayes anyway, so I'm not sure what point you think you are making here.
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To say it doesnt matter makes no sense. It's one of the keys to the whole malay.
Hayes obviously had two guns that night, one he used to shoot a man in the back in front of his wife and friends. Does that make you more likely to think he is guilty? It doesn't seem so.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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False. There was no gun found visible in Smith's car.
so tell me, where did they find it?
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