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Fred McAfee, Devery Henderson and longtime trainer Kevin Mangum enter Saints HOF.

Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:29 pm
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Posted by cbree88
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:34 pm to
Who the heck is Fast Freddie? Fred Thomas?
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:36 pm to
Fred McAfee
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:37 pm to
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Who the heck is Fast Freddie

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:53 pm to
They seem to be stretching a bit with the Saints HOF. They are watering down those in the HOF.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:12 pm to
Long time trainer? Wtf
Posted by The Hurricane
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:18 pm to
Yeah. He’s been with the team since Day 1.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:33 pm to
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They seem to be stretching a bit with the Saints HOF. They are watering down those in the HOF.


The Saints HOF was half watered down inductees until the late 90s. Tom Dempsey was the 4th person inducted and he only played for the team for 2 years and it was the worst two seasons of his career.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:38 pm to
I know Kevin and his family well. Good for him. Wouldn't have expected a trainer to get recognized like that but he's been with them a looooong time.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 2:47 pm to
Also, just looking at the bios of inductees and it's weird that half of John Carney's bio is about missing the River City Relay kick. It's not even like he missed but he persevered, it's just remember when he missed that big kick.
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Background: One of the most prolific kickers in NFL history, Carney signed with the Saints as a free agent prior to the 2001 season. On December 21, 2003, the Saints were trailing the Jaguars 20-13 with 7 seconds left in regulation. Quarterback Aaron Brooks threw the ball in a hurry to Donte Stallworth. As time expired, the Saints continued to lateral the ball around until eventually wide receiver Jerome Pathon scored a touchdown in what became known as the River City Relay. Carney was sent out to kick the extra point to tie the game up and force overtime. Instead, Carney pushed the ball wide right as the Saints would lose 19-20. Carney kicked a game-winning field goal against the Carolina Panthers following Hurricane Katrina. He then appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated with quarterback Aaron Brooks on September 19, 2005 as the city celebrated this victory. Carney has also been a member of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, San Diego Chargers, New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Rams, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, and New York Giants. He was a Pro Bowl selection with the Chargers in 1994 and with the Giants in 2008. When he was released from the Saints' active roster in December 2009, Carney was third on the NFL career scoring list with a career total of 2,044 points. He was the last remaining player from the 1980s still active in professional football.
Posted by NOSHAU
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 4:02 pm to
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The Saints HOF was half watered down inductees until the late 90s. Tom Dempsey was the 4th person inducted and he only played for the team for 2 years and it was the worst two seasons of his career.
I get that, but at least he is famous for what was a long-time NFL record when the Saints really had no other highlights.
Posted by Athis
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:45 pm to
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the River City Relay kick


It was called "The exclamation without the point"...
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:11 pm to
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Saints HOF


it stopped being a HOF many years ago

now its just a "i worked at" or "i played for the saints" notice of mention that even the janitor and water boy could get
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 6/10/22 at 4:31 pm to
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He’s been with the team since Day 1.
Until Mora & Finks got here, him having to endure most of those Seasons qualify him for early release from Purgatory.



I’ll bet he could tell some interesting stories….
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
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Posted on 6/12/22 at 8:24 am to
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know Kevin and his family well. Good for him. Wouldn't have expected a trainer to get recognized like that but he's been with them a looooong time.


Same, great guy
Posted by southsidedell
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 10:35 am to
I mean Fred contributed to the Saints during the Mora era as a player, the Haslett era as a player and even played in the CSP era for a year. And has been in the FO since 07. I think dude has earned a spot for sure. Personal opinion of course.
Posted by bigberg2000
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/15/22 at 1:25 pm to
Fred Weary should be in just based on how many white girls he got at Tjs.
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