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Former GM Dave Ziegler joining Saints’ draft war room

Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:19 pm to
I'll take as many ex GMs on drafting and for draft day as we can get.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:23 pm to
nb4 New Orleans Raiders talk
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:29 pm to
He didn't overlap with DA's Raiders days. What is slightly interesting is bringing in the guy that unceremoniously ran off our current starting QB.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:30 pm to
Some more info from when he interviewed with the Broncos
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Ziegler, the Patriots' assistant director of player personnel, is the third candidate to interview for the Broncos' open general manager position.

Ziegler has spent the last eight years with the Patriots in a variety of roles. He served as the assistant director of pro scouting from 2013-15 and was then promoted to director of pro personnel from 2016-19 before assuming his current role in 2020.

Before joining New England, Ziegler spent a brief stint in Denver as a Broncos player personnel assistant/area scout in 2011 and a pro scout in 2012.

"Because Bill Belichick is the final decision-maker, it's hard to identify one move and say, 'This was all Dave Ziegler,'" ESPN's Mike Reiss told DenverBroncos.com. "That's just not the way the Patriots work. But for those behind the scenes, a picture has been painted to me that Ziegler is always well prepared on a daily basis, and when a need arises, he puts the organization in the best spot to fill it decisively."
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:33 pm to
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But for those behind the scenes, a picture has been painted to me that Ziegler is always well prepared on a daily basis, and when a need arises, he puts the organization in the best spot to fill it decisively."

Lots of corporate words saying nothing

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:39 pm to
Who knows. But I'll take his connections with other teams, coaches,players,agents, college coaches etc. that is unique to him. Can't hurt.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:41 pm to
I also like it in case we lose Ireland next year, Ziegler could be brought back to fill his role
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:43 pm to
what I wonder is if this is setting up a situation where Mickey moves up, Ireland takes his spot and this guy slides into the Ireland role now?

conspiracy talk land, but it is an interesting move. i realize it is through the draft, but i wonder if it is a "let's see how you do this draft" and if he hits, he gets retained
Posted by JS87
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:45 pm to
Oakland Saints
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

conspiracy talk land, but it is an interesting move. i realize it is through the draft, but i wonder if it is a "let's see how you do this draft" and if he hits, he gets retained


Sounds like the classic..."One year cheap prove it deal" maneuver
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

what I wonder is if this is setting up a situation where Mickey moves up, Ireland takes his spot and this guy slides into the Ireland role now?

conspiracy talk land, but it is an interesting move. i realize it is through the draft, but i wonder if it is a "let's see how you do this draft" and if he hits, he gets retained




or ireland on the outs. khai would be the loomis replacement, not ireland.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 4:03 pm to
I would agree, but with Ireland being a former GM in Miami - he has the experience to run it.

that said, you are probly right
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:33 pm to
The Raiders have been maybe the worst organization in football for years.

And we are desperately trying to be them.
Posted by Snipe
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:58 pm to
Getting fresh perspectives on rookies and the draft is something the Saints desperately need. Their war room seems a little stale at times.

I’m hopeful that with the new Offensive staff and now Ziegler coming on board we finally see the saints taking interest in the modern day NFL potential stars.
Posted by Borntoboogy
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:58 pm to
You may be on to something.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:06 pm to
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The Raiders have been maybe the worst organization in football for years. And we are desperately trying to be them.

Except the majority of his career was spent handling pro personnel for the Patriots during the Belicheck and Brady years

Very low iq take
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:32 pm to
Why do we keep going for failed employees from a historically bad franchise
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:44 pm to
He has actually had other jobs elsewhere
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Except the majority of his career was spent handling pro personnel for the Patriots during the Belicheck and Brady years


This is like trying to give Eric Bienemy credit for the Chiefs offense
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