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re: For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy

Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:36 am to
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Can you explain why before that call, no one was pointing out how badly the Saints were getting screwed?

You realize how badly that hurts your argument, right? That no one agreed with you except for other Saints fans.




so troy aikmen and joe fricking buck were saints fan??

they called out the first missed DPI and they questioned the phantom timeout by rams which cost us a stop and eventually 3 points

GTFO clown
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:37 am to
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Play clock on screen is not synced up to hte official clock. Balls being snapped at :00 have been a thing forever, Saints did it, and the Rams did it during the game.


Tell that to Lester. I agree with this
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:37 am to
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so troy aikmen and joe fricking buck were saints fan??

they called out the first missed DPI and they questioned the phantom timeout by rams which cost us a stop and eventually 3 points

GTFO clown
WTF are you talking about?

They also called out plays that didn't go in the Rams favor but should have.

Careful calling people names while simultaneously making a really stupid point. Wanna try to answer the question again, this time maybe an answer that makes actual sense?

Yea, run along, the grown ups are talking.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 10:38 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59948 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:38 am to
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Is that the rule that states the game can be replayed from that point after the fact? Because it would open up and set a precedent where multiple games would have be replayed every single season. You really didn't know the answer to that?


They would replay at point of contention where the error occurred. IE it would be first down at the 5.

To your last question: It’s not MY job to address how. It’s THEIR job and it IS their job because it is an ACTUAL rule.

To your second question: It implies the NFL won’t follow its own rules because they are unwilling to properly change the outcome of games to reflect accuracy.

So I respond with a question: why doesn’t the NFL want to ensure key games have an unbiased and accurate outcome?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:38 am to
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Can you explain why before that call, no one was pointing out how badly the Saints were getting screwed?

You realize how badly that hurts your argument, right? That no one agreed with you except for other Saints fans.


Who is no one? Joe Buck and Troy Aikman? Yea I'm not expecting the announcers to sit there and say well Troy the Saints are getting royally fricked there. Right Joe!

I mean you're speaking in real time here. Who else are you going to hear this from?
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 10:40 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:39 am to
Could you imagine being a Saints fan and having to settle for missing the Superbowl because of the worst non call of an illegal play in the history of any sport for a championship game?

Oh wait, we all can.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22788 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:39 am to
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they called out the first missed DPI and they questioned the phantom timeout by rams which cost us a stop and eventually 3 points


They didn't question it, they discussed how the rule change made it difficult to tell when a TO was actually called, and they stated that the refs have been told that if it was close to grant the TO.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:40 am to
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They would replay at point of contention where the error occurred. IE it would be first down at the 5.

Right, so you don't understand why the league would want to avoid that at all costs?

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why doesn’t the NFL want to ensure key games have an unbiased and accurate outcome?
And I answered that unequivocally.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59948 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:41 am to
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No one is arguing that it wasn't a missed call. Everyone agrees that it was a missed call. Some people don't agree that the missed call is a part of some larger conspiracy because, logically, there were much better opportunities to influence the game.


I agree there are better opportunities to do so. My point is the refs didn’t capitalize on them enough forcing them into the position of desperation during the 4th quarter and overtime.

You’re arugument really lays the groundwork FOR the blantant no calls at the end of the game.
Posted by Puddinhead
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
4299 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:41 am to
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shel311


You seem to not understand what a rule is. It's not a thing you only choose to abide by if it will be convenient for you.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:42 am to
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Who is no one? Joe Buck and Troy Aikman? Yea I'm not expecting the announcers to sit there and say well Troy the Saints are getting royally fricked there. Right Joe!
Why are you using Buck/Aikman when literally no one was pointing to them at any point in the game to say, "See, even they think the Saints are getting screwed?"

I don't understand why you're propping them up when they pointed out calls that went against both teams, what point are you trying to make using the 2 of them?

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I mean you're speaking in real time here. Who else are you going to hear this from?

This is 2019. Games are watched and discussed in real time by millions of people.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59948 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:42 am to
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Right, so you don't understand why the league would want to avoid that at all costs?


No. I completely understand why they want to avoid this.

It’s you that doesn’t seem to understand. You are arguing against yourself here.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:43 am to
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You seem to not understand what a rule is.
You seem to not be comprehending my answer.

Are you saying my answer is wrong?

quote:

It's not a thing you only choose to abide by if it will be convenient for you.
Except it is, and the NFL will do just that. Still not sure what post of mine you disagree with that makes you think I don't know what a rule is.

I'm answering a question he asked me from the NFL's perspective, you get that, right??
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:44 am to
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It’s you that doesn’t seem to understand. You are arguing against yourself here.


Saying that doesn't make it so, pro tip.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:45 am to
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Right, so you don't understand why the league would want to avoid that at all costs


Instead, they have a team in the super bowl that shouldn't be there.

So their biggest game of the year, probably history with tv ratings, and the most watched event in the world will be looked at by any rational fan as illegitimate.

That's why you open up Pandoras box for this one game. You reset the game at the play and then change the rules in the off-season where this never happens again.

This is the worst call in the history of the league and the black eye is so big the NFL can't even address it without an army of lawyers drawing up a statement so the language can't bring in the rule to play it again comes up
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287659 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:46 am to
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Could you imagine being a Saints fan and having to settle for missing the Superbowl because of the worst non call of an illegal play in the history of any sport for a championship game?

Oh wait, we all can.


I thought it was a horrible call & I will think about it for a long long time


I do not think the game was rigged though.

I have the brain capacity to acknowledge that it is completely feasible that they just fricked it up
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:49 am to
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So their biggest game of the year, probably history with tv ratings, and the most watched event in the world will be looked at by any rational fan as illegitimate.
Long term, people will forget about this. Saints fans sure as hell won't. Overall, 10/25 years from now, no one is talking about this. Replay the game, and the NFL's shame lives on forever.

It's a PR decision.

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That's why you open up Pandoras box for this one game. You reset the game at the play and then change the rules in the off-season where this never happens again.
They can not do that, still change the rule, and it's a smaller PR disaster for them.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:49 am to
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I have the brain capacity to acknowledge that it is completely feasible that they just fricked it up
Congratulations. I also have that, in addition to life experience/street smarts that tells me there are some corrupt motherfrickers out there, the NFL not being immune to corruption. It is a multi BILLION dollar industry.

I mean we aren't talking about the earth being flat or a fake moon landing here, Les. It is completely feasible.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:50 am to
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I thought it was a horrible call & I will think about it for a long long time


I do not think the game was rigged though.

I have the brain capacity to acknowledge that it is completely feasible that they just fricked it up

Right. Imagine thinking anyone who doesn't agree with you MUST NOT BE A SAINTS FAN!!!
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287659 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:51 am to
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Tell that to Lester. I agree with this



I was at the game and I can assure you the saints got some favorable judgements with the play clock. I noticed it at least 3x, one being in the red zone

I understand how play clock infractions are officiated. I’ve heard Blandino explain it. Their eyes have to be in 2 spots at once & sometimes the offense will get an extra second because of it. That was certainly the case.
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