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re: For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy

Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:21 am to
Posted by Eternalmajin
Member since Jun 2008
13651 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:21 am to
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Up to that point in that play, why wasn't the narrative talking about how bad the refs were against the Saints?


Because up until that point, outside of a very timely 1st and only holding call of the game, everything was explained by "playoff officiating" and "letting them play".

And the game was a 3 point contest going into the 4th. Or, more to the point, a 1 score game. Striking distance for any calls that need to be made, and means the Rams are not out of it in any sense. 4th quarter is when you get the officials starting to stretch the way they are calling the game. Saints drive to the ~40 and the 2nd blatant dPI by #23 goes ignored on 3rd and 7. Punt. Saints get the ball back around the 45, close to scoring range, immediate holding call on first down after ignoring the lines all game. Rams fail on 3rd down again, but oh wait, nevermind, they "called timeout" and then go down and tie the game. Saints hit the big play to Ginn, will end the game with a first down, so you get the no call everyone is talking about now.

All of that is done to keep it a one score game for the Rams and give them the opportunity. They couldn't stop the Rams from giving up the bomb to Ginn, but they could make sure they got the ball back only down 3 at worst with over a minute on the clock. And they did. Same with how they couldn't make sure Z made the kick, and I think if he misses it that would have been it, no made up penalty after the fact. But they made damn sure they had the opportunity to tie or win the game in regulation by ensuring the Saints didn't put it away.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:23 am to
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You do realize you are proving my point right.
Yea, that's definitely not happening.

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People aren’t calling it the worst refereeing in history all over national media for nothing.
They're doing so because of 1 call.

Can you explain why no one was calling it bad officiating before that call, other than Saints fans? Can you explain why Rams fans were pissed that they were getting jobbed up to that point?

Can you explain how this thing they've been doing for years has never been outed?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:24 am to
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Dude you and Lester are pointing to the penalty tally and that's your argument.

You're saying it's obvious there was no cheating because there were only 3 penalties called.

You're duped in your own argument lol
Can you explain why before that call, no one was pointing out how badly the Saints were getting screwed?

You realize how badly that hurts your argument, right? That no one agreed with you except for other Saints fans.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:25 am to
We were getting screwed. Jesus

It's just the enormity of the no call late which is overshadowing everything else

Is the msb slow today or something? Go argue over there for the sake of arguing
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287659 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:26 am to
you don't want to address the no-calls for the Rams, do you jonesy?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:26 am to
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Because up until that point, outside of a very timely 1st and only holding call of the game, everything was explained by "playoff officiating" and "letting them play".

If the refs were tasked with cheating to get the Rams to win AND the Saints go up 13-0 early, wouldn't it be pretty obvious and the narrative be about how badly the Saints got jobbed the entire game, not just the 1 call?

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:27 am to
The facemask that was borderline not egregious?

Or the delay of game in the 1st half?
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:27 am to
It was rigged.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:28 am to
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We were getting screwed. Jesus
Can you explain why only Saints fans were saying this BEFORE that play?

Can you explain why up to that point, Rams fans were saying, "we're getting screwed. Jesus"

Can you explain why the narrative was NEVER about how the Saints were getting screwed before that play?

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Is the msb slow today or something? Go argue over there for the sake of arguing
Sounds like you can't answer my questions and want me to go away. Know how I know you're wrong. Make comments like that one.

I always love when posters get mad at me for doing exactly what they're doing, nice self awareness you got there.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:28 am to
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Or the delay of game in the 1st half?
Play clock on screen is not synced up to hte official clock. Balls being snapped at :00 have been a thing forever, Saints did it, and the Rams did it during the game.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:29 am to
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Yea, that's definitely not happening.


And yet it is

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They're doing so because of 1 call.


Which singlehandedly, blatantly, unapologeticly kept the Saints out of the Super Bowl.

NONE of the on field rules allowing for the flag to be thrown on PI or targeting were followed. NONE of the three checks where performed intentionally.

So blatant. So obvious the NFL was outed to a degree, and guess what. It doesn’t matter because it’s legal now. That’s what I’ve been saying. They WERE outed, that’s PRECISELY why they can’t admit fault in an official statement.

They would have to replay the game at the end, but they won’t.

So...why won’t they enact rule 17?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:30 am to
Why won’t the NFL enact rule 17?

We all agree it was egregious enough.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:30 am to
I'll just copy/paste at this point since the 2 posters replying just keep ignoring them.

Can you explain why only Saints fans were saying this BEFORE that play?

Can you explain why up to that point, Rams fans were saying, "we're getting screwed. Jesus"

Can you explain why the narrative was NEVER about how the Saints were getting screwed before that play?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287659 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:31 am to
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The facemask that was borderline not egregious?



the one that spun his head around? lol ok

you need to watch that in real time bubba


"not egregious"

could you imagine being a Rams fan and having to settle for 3 instead of 7 in that instance?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:31 am to
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Why won’t the NFL enact rule 17?
Is that the rule that states the game can be replayed from that point after the fact? Because it would open up and set a precedent where multiple games would have be replayed every single season. You really didn't know the answer to that?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:34 am to
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As I already mentioned, a holding call earlier in that drive to prevent the Saints from getting in FG range makes much more sense.


I pointed one out. Get with the program.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Can you explain why only Saints fans were saying this BEFORE that play?

Can you explain why up to that point, Rams fans were saying, "we're getting screwed. Jesus"

Can you explain why the narrative was NEVER about how the Saints were getting screwed before that play?


I’ll tell you why no one is responding:

You’re evidence = anecdotal feelings about the game with no source

My evidence = video, audio, player confessions
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112568 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:35 am to
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I’ll tell you why no one is responding:
Nah, I'll tell you, because if you answered my questions honestly, you'd know I was right and you were wrong.


I'll ask again since you avoided it again:

Can you explain why only Saints fans were saying this BEFORE that play?

Can you explain why up to that point, Rams fans were saying, "we're getting screwed. Jesus"

Can you explain why the narrative was NEVER about how the Saints were getting screwed before that play?
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25838 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:35 am to
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They had no calls too, Jones. Goff got his face mask yanked, no call, they settled for a FG instead of 1st & goal at the 1.

So i mean what are we really saying here? a 4 point swing is a huge deal in a game that went into Overtime


True, but it's far easier to miss a lightly grabbed face mask than to miss a de-cleating, helmet-to-helmet pass interference call.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22788 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:36 am to
No one is arguing that it wasn't a missed call. Everyone agrees that it was a missed call. Some people don't agree that the missed call is a part of some larger conspiracy because, logically, there were much better opportunities to influence the game.
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