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re: For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:50 am to Deactived
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:50 am to Deactived
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Your argument doesn't hold weight. Those no calls were in crunch time and are way more severe than your simple penalty count
They had no calls too, Jones. Goff got his face mask yanked, no call, they settled for a FG instead of 1st & goal at the 1.
So i mean what are we really saying here? a 4 point swing is a huge deal in a game that went into Overtime
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:51 am
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:52 am to UpToPar
Dude, it’s 2018, I guarantee you the NFL can communicate with the refs the entire game and decide what they want to happen as the game plays out they don’t have to pre-determine what they want.
It’s not like they have to come up with a preset plan and then shift the rest of the way to make sure they follow that plan, they adjust the cheating as they go bro, watch the fricking season and the games and then you’ll understand, going all the way back to the AFC championship last year you fricktard.
It’s not like they have to come up with a preset plan and then shift the rest of the way to make sure they follow that plan, they adjust the cheating as they go bro, watch the fricking season and the games and then you’ll understand, going all the way back to the AFC championship last year you fricktard.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:54 am
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:52 am to Lester Earl
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The focus is not on this single play, rather the fact that the game was somehow rigged or was not called in the Saints' favor.
All that you say is immediately bullshite BECAUSE of that one play.
It was a willfully ignored call that singled handedly would have put the saints in the super bowl. Period.
The worst refereeing in NFL history. We aren’t discussing a normal blown call or a typical mistake.
We are discussing why the NFL willfully kept the saints from winning because of one of the most obviously ignore “multiple foul” calls ever (targeting was the most obvious)
WHEN they had three ways to correct it AFTER the play. WHY sit on the ignored call when they have ways to get the call correct?
Explain why?
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:55 am to Deactived
quote:Wait, your argument is that if someone is saying the refs literally cheated to keep the Saints from winning that 3 penalties the entire game means nothing?
Tgat doesn't mean shite when you have multiple no calls against you.
So the refs were tasked with cheating but called 3 penalties on teh Saints and allowed the game to come down to a 48 yard FG that if missed, the refs would have failed at their job?
Is that really the argument you want to make, or would you like to change it to one that makes sense?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:55 am to P bean
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Dude, it’s 2018, I guarantee you the NFL can communicate with the refs the entire game and decide what they want to happen as the game plays out they don’t have to pre-determine what they want.
Okay, so why did the NFL wait until the last drive to call in the fix? You understand how silly this sounds, right?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:56 am to klrstix
quote:3 penalties 20 yards
I am by no means prone to assigning "conspiracy" motives behind things that happen. But at the same time, when 2 different refs (with a possible third ref) in a position to see the play and none of them throw a flag... imo you would be foolishly naive not consider the possibility..
Refs wait to make the most egregious possible call, and the Saints are still near 80% to win, but the refs who wanted the Saints to lose didn't bother to call any other calls earlier in the game to ensure that?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:57 am to theunknownknight
Ive never seen you out of character. Impressive melt.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:57 am to Deactived
quote:Holding on a lineman, and defenisve holding are super easy to call.
No calls are a lot easier way to screw a team. You take away a down essentially and there's no chance to make it up.
Why wouldn't they call a couple of those to ensure they don't have to rely on a kicker to make a FG to go to OT, then to hope the Saints don't score a TD in OT?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:57 am to UpToPar
You let things slide here and there. You don't just hammer them with penalties in the first quarter on every drive
Let me ask you this. You think games are ever fixed in pro sports?
Let me ask you this. You think games are ever fixed in pro sports?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:58 am to UpToPar
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Okay, so why did the NFL wait until the last drive to call in the fix?
Because it was the best one? Because it was the necessary one? Because, imagine how desperate the refereeing would have to look to ensure the Rams stayed in the game as the game went on...on wait...
You realize you are actually proving his point right?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:58 am to P bean
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Dude, it’s 2018, I guarantee you the NFL can communicate with the refs the entire game and decide what they want to happen as the game plays out they don’t have to pre-determine what they want.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Ive never seen you out of character. Impressive melt.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:59 am to shel311
It's called the favorable outcome. If the Saints overcome it, so be it.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:59 am to UpToPar
listen, i've argued against at least 20 conspiracy theories on the rant in the past 10 years.
and i dont think that roger called up the refs and told them to make sure the Rams won.
BUT i DO believe that its possible that bias (either intentional or unintentional) couldve been baked into the crew's thought process.
basically, "if you get a chance to steer the game in this direction, that wouldnt be a bad thing"
and i dont think that roger called up the refs and told them to make sure the Rams won.
BUT i DO believe that its possible that bias (either intentional or unintentional) couldve been baked into the crew's thought process.
basically, "if you get a chance to steer the game in this direction, that wouldnt be a bad thing"
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:59 am to theunknownknight
quote:Wait, if the refs are tasked with cheating, who cares if the Saints played cleaner?
Maybe because the saints played cleaner?
Call a phantom hold or defensive PI here and there. But nah, you think it was better for the refs to wait, call the worst possible call imaginable, still only have a 20% chance to succeed in giving hte Rams the win, THEN have to rely on a kicker to make a 48 yard FG. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:00 am to P bean
quote:Dude, it's 2018. If that were happening, they would be outed pretty quickly.
Dude, it’s 2018, I guarantee you the NFL can communicate with the refs the entire game and decide what they want to happen as the game plays out they don’t have to pre-determine what they want.
quote:What if the Rams missed the FG at the end of regulation?
It’s not like they have to come up with a preset plan and then shift the rest of the way to make sure they follow that plan, they adjust the cheating as they go bro, watch the fricking season and the games and then you’ll understand, going all the way back to the AFC championship last year you fricktard.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:01 am to UpToPar
quote:The NFL decided to really stick it to the Saints by decreasing their odds of winning the game to 78%!!!
Okay, so why did the NFL wait until the last drive to call in the fix? You understand how silly this sounds, right?
Worst game fixing refs ever!!!
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:03 am to Deactived
quote:Oh, so you wait until 1 team has no chance, then don't call the most obvious penalty that everyone will talk about, then the team still has a 78% chance to win, then you just hope that a FG or 2 is missed late. That's the logic?
You let things slide here and there. You don't just hammer them with penalties in the first quarter on every drive
quote:Yes. It's done very in a very subtle way if so, not in the most obvious way possible.
Let me ask you this. You think games are ever fixed in pro sports?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:04 am to theunknownknight
quote:it was literally the worst way you can fix a game ever, and you call it the best one.
Because it was the best one?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 10:04 am to Deactived
quote:
You let things slide here and there. You don't just hammer them with penalties in the first quarter on every drive
I'm not suggesting that you do this, all I'm suggesting is that if the refs were trying to make sure the Rams won, they went about doing that horribly. What if a DB slips and Brees throws a TD to Thomas on that same play? What if the Rams don't make a 57 yard FG to send the game to OT?
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Let me ask you this. You think games are ever fixed in pro sports?
Sure they are, some sports more than others.
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