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re: For All You Winston Lovers

Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:59 pm to
Posted by the LSUSaint
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Posted on 2/7/21 at 11:59 pm to
You'd have to be a complete moron to buy season tickets next year
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8807 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:13 am to
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Gronk, Brown, and AB were the dudes that scored their TDs today. None were on the roster last year with Jameis.


And don’t forget the RT that fell into their laps on draft day. The oline was the biggest weakness on the team and he played lights out. Shut down Cam in the playoffs.
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11907 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:19 am to
Yep all it took was getting rid of Winston...

And adding Tom Brady, and Gronk, and AB, and Fournette
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:33 am to
I agree 100% with this post!
Not happening! If W. was so good he would still be playing for TB!
Posted by Spec1
Lost but making good time
Member since Jan 2015
1983 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:42 am to
The guy who took his place is the GOAT as well!
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:13 am to
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You'd have to be a complete moron to buy season tickets next year


People showing their true colors.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:14 am to
Winston is not a 1st ballot HOFer that can tell Arians that the team will not win with his gimmick offense. Brady is the reason they changed the offense and all of a sudden started winning. Winston did not have enough skins on the wall to tell Arians his offense was a joke.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13619 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:17 am to
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Winston is not a 1st ballot HOFer that can tell Arians that the team will not win with his gimmick offense. Brady is the reason they changed the offense and all of a sudden started winning. Winston did not have enough skins on the wall to tell Arians his offense was a joke

If the Arians offense is a joke and a gimmick, why did it work for him with pretty much every QB he’s had other than Winston? Carson Palmer, Andrew Luck, Big Ben. All successful in a Bruce Arians offense
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:22 am to
TB was 3rd in yds/game and 4th in pts/game in 2019. Winston had a much worse running game and Oline. I'm not saying Winston is better than brady, but I'm not buying the Winston is garbage either. I think Winston is a good player that had a really bad season TO wise
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13619 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:25 am to
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I think Winston is a good player that had a really bad season TO wise

Good player based on what? None of his other seasons were good.
There’s more to being a good QB than arm talent
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:32 am to
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If the Arians offense is a joke and a gimmick, why did it work for him with pretty much every QB he’s had other than Winston? Carson Palmer, Andrew Luck, Big Ben. All successful in a Bruce Arians offense


So, Brady does not know what he is talking about? Was it the QB or Arians? You are listing some really top QBs there. IIRC, Palmer threw more INTs than he ever had in his career previously in his first year at Arizona. Not sure what you are crediting him for in Indy. He was there for a minute and it was early in Luck's career, the year he threw for the most INTs in his career. Heck, Brady threw more INTs this year than he had in a decade. That suddenly changed when he spoke up and they made changes. Remember when Arians was routinely throwing Brady under the bus early in the season?
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11895 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:35 am to
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Good player based on what? None of his other seasons were good.
There’s more to being a good QB than arm talent
Probably too early to determine if he is good or not. Will have to see him in Saints offense. However, his early years are somewhat similar to Drew's. Let's see if he shows anything next year if given the opportunity before jumping to a conclusion either way.
Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13619 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:38 am to
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IIRC, Palmer threw more INTs than he ever had in his career previously in his first year at Arizona. Not sure what you are crediting him for in Indy. He was there for a minute and it was early in Luck's career, the year he threw for the most INTs in his career.

He was the coach in Indy and led them to the playoffs. Seems like he’s led almost all of his QBs to the playoffs except Jameis.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
6935 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:39 am to
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Gronk, Brown, and AB were the dudes that scored their TDs today. None were on the roster last year with Jameis.


C. Brate is as good or better than Gronk is now.
"Brown" (guess you mean LF) - Ronald Jones was playing very well toward the end of the year. This is a wash.
AB helped upgrade the WR group, but they still had M. Evans and Godwin. Less not pretend this is crap for WRs.

The fact that Winston couldn't make the playoffs but Brady won the Superbowl is not because of the wealth of talent that showed up in one year. Winston had guys around him, he just sucks.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:42 am to
This is pretty dumb. You calling it a wash when one had half and the other had all.

Posted by D011ahbi11
Member since Jun 2007
13619 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:43 am to
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Probably too early to determine if he is good or not.

All we can do is look at what he’s done thus far, if he improves you adjust your thoughts but up until now he has definitely not been good.

quote:

However, his early years are somewhat similar to Drew's

Not really

quote:

Let's see if he shows anything next year if given the opportunity before jumping to a conclusion either way.

I’m not jumping to conclusions, I’m just telling you what he’s been.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:44 am to
I really don't understand the reasoning in some of you. It's like you think if you get on here and bash Winston enough he won't be here. Newsflash - we don't make these decisions! You're crying is useless, and to be honest, sad.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
6935 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:47 am to
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I really don't understand the reasoning in some of you. It's like you think if you get on here and bash Winston enough he won't be here. Newsflash - we don't make these decisions! You're crying is useless, and to be honest, sad.



I really don't understand the reasoning in some of you. It's like you think Winston will stop throwing INTs and become a Superbowl winning QB, then it will just magically happen. Newsflash - we don't throw the INTs! Your dreaming of Superbowls is useless, and to be honest, pathetic.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57679 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:48 am to
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The length this board is going to convince themselves that Jameis will be good is insane.


I think they’re in the acceptance phase that a guy who is a complete moron is going to be starting for us next year.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10778 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:49 am to
What if told you I'm not Sean Payton?
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