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re: For All You Winston Lovers
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:51 am to Skippy1013
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:51 am to Skippy1013
Tampa's success has way more to do with the guy that replaced Winston. All they did was get what many believe is the best qb to ever play in the NFL.
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:57 am to msstate7
I'm about as big a Brees fan as there is, so I'm not saying Winston will ever be drew good, but I found this interesting...
Brees at age 24: 4.2 int% on 356 att
Winston at age 25 (2019): 4.8 int% on on 626 att
QBs do improve
Brees at age 24: 4.2 int% on 356 att
Winston at age 25 (2019): 4.8 int% on on 626 att
QBs do improve
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:07 pm to msstate7
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QBs do improve
Some of them do, some get worse, some stay the same. No reason to assume Winston is one that will improve
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:13 pm to JHE_11
I would think maybe this was part of the improvement too, but who knows?
2019 TB team defense: 15th
2020 TB team defense: 9th
Here's offense rankings...
2019 team offense: 3rd
2020 team offense: 7th
2019 TB team defense: 15th
2020 TB team defense: 9th
Here's offense rankings...
2019 team offense: 3rd
2020 team offense: 7th
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:14 pm to msstate7
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2019 TB team defense: 29th
2020 TB team defense: 9th
What metric are you using? Points per game?
Jameis put that defense in bad position all year, it was actually a good defense last year too.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:18 pm to D011ahbi11
Yds/game, but what you quoted is way off. I clicked wrong column. Apologies... I edited above post
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:19 pm to D011ahbi11
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. No reason to assume Winston is one that will improve
Also no reason to assume he won't improve.
I dont see Winston as a superstar qb but he can be good enough for now
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:27 pm to TigerDat
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Also no reason to assume he won't improve
There’s much more evidence of guys not improving than improving. I assume he’ll be the guy that he’s always been until proven otherwise
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:03 pm to Skippy1013
You have too much sense for the knuckle draggers here. Winston gonna throw 40 int’s next year. It’s in his dna.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 1:18 pm to Skippy1013
Do we forget his stats are up there with the best qb's in the league? He had no run game in Tampa Bay which is what a young qb needs.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:35 pm to Skippy1013
At least his throws can go pass the 40 yard mark.
Posted on 2/8/21 at 3:39 pm to tgands
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Do we forget his stats are up there with the best qb's in the league?
Which stats?
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:28 pm to the LSUSaint
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You'd have to be a complete moron to buy season tickets next year
I know, no telling when they will allow full capacity.
Posted on 2/9/21 at 5:42 pm to Skippy1013
I'm willing to give Winston a chance. His head coach for most of his career was Dirk freakin Koetter and offensive coordinator was Todd Monken.
Neither has had any sort of success. Dirk had two winning seasons as a coordinator and one as a head coach. Monken is worse.
Second year with Payton with a year under Brees. We will probably have a more explosive offense, though not as consistent.
Neither has had any sort of success. Dirk had two winning seasons as a coordinator and one as a head coach. Monken is worse.
Second year with Payton with a year under Brees. We will probably have a more explosive offense, though not as consistent.
Posted on 2/10/21 at 4:58 pm to Skippy1013
Totally agree. Anyone with a football IQ knows this. Neither one of these guys is an NFL QB. I can't believe I see so many downvotes on your point.
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