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re: Explain this Goodell conspiracy theory.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:29 am to keakar
Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:29 am to keakar
quote:
he blames saints fans for exposing how the NFL rigs games
Qanon, the "rigged" election, the Kennedy Assassination, the moon landing and now.....
the nfl rigged games.
Lord have mercy.
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:38 am to Scoob
and nobody got injured by the Saints that year.
Kurt Warner and Brett Farve say hello.
I understand that Goodell isn’t his direct boss
But it seems extremely dumbassery to intentionally act so foolishly to someone in Goodells position.
Kurt Warner and Brett Farve say hello.
I understand that Goodell isn’t his direct boss
But it seems extremely dumbassery to intentionally act so foolishly to someone in Goodells position.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:26 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
Kurt Warner and Brett Farve say hello.
Get this weak arse bullshite out of here.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
Zero bullshite from me
Lots of denial on this board
As to be expected
Lots of denial on this board
As to be expected
Posted on 6/26/22 at 12:46 pm to saints63213
Exactly. Payton's personality/ego hasn't always meshed with the league's agenda and operating procedures. Benson gave Loomis and Payton pretty much full reign. But I would go further as to take the Payton and Goodell rub started earlier the Super Bowl run. I remember hearing that neither were fans of each other before that.
I would guess there has been what has been roughly 14÷ years of bad blood that really began to boiling during the Super Bowl run. The entire team had an edginess to them and they were playing the game that they wanted to play. It worked but it pissed off Goodell because they weren't handling the media like he wanted them to and snubbed Super Bowl access. Everything started after that. Vicodin allegations, Bountygate, the league trying to force Benson to fire Sean and the heavy handed punishments.
I don't think it got better despite Sean saying differently publicly after the Rams PI game and Goodell trying to save face by having Sean on the rules committee to change the rule. That game was fixed and everyone saw it.
I would guess there has been what has been roughly 14÷ years of bad blood that really began to boiling during the Super Bowl run. The entire team had an edginess to them and they were playing the game that they wanted to play. It worked but it pissed off Goodell because they weren't handling the media like he wanted them to and snubbed Super Bowl access. Everything started after that. Vicodin allegations, Bountygate, the league trying to force Benson to fire Sean and the heavy handed punishments.
I don't think it got better despite Sean saying differently publicly after the Rams PI game and Goodell trying to save face by having Sean on the rules committee to change the rule. That game was fixed and everyone saw it.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 1:34 pm to Le Tenia
If you want to get completely honest, I think the NFL is fixed at the "soft" level, meaning the games aren't scripted but you could, if you want, influence some teams having a good (or bad) season. Sort of along the lines of "let's not be blatant, but give Team A the benefit of the doubt on calls". The talent parity is close enough that you could make a huge impact, in very subtle ways.
I don't think it goes on often, but it does happen. Brady became a national sweetheart, as did Manning, and their teams would have the slightest edge in calls because of that.
Afterall, it's not financially sound to have your superstars on bad teams, they won't stay superstars very long if that's the case. And that would make marketing (making money) harder.
I think it's no coincidence that the Saints suddenly emerged as a playoff contender right after Katrina, that was a national feel-good story. We even had U2 making a special concert appearance and song about the team... it would have been a waste if the Saints went 4-12 with all that going on.
So, we got the benefits usually reserved for, say, the Cowboys (America's Team), or the Patriots (Brady).
But Payton wasn't gracious about it, got a little arrogant. And so Goodell has been punishing him and the Saints ever since. I think some times, it gets a bit too obvious, like the no-call (I don't think it was meant to be that obvious, but I do think the Rams were meant to win if at all possible).
If you look at the way things have gone, it makes some sense. Look at the Rams become a Super Bowl contender just as soon as they go to LA, and have a Super Bowl assigned to that city. This, after decades of being mediocre. Look at the Bucs, you take a team last in the division, give them Brady (a 40 yr old QB the Saints thoroughly dominated) and a few other guys, and they win the Super Bowl.
I don't think it goes on often, but it does happen. Brady became a national sweetheart, as did Manning, and their teams would have the slightest edge in calls because of that.
Afterall, it's not financially sound to have your superstars on bad teams, they won't stay superstars very long if that's the case. And that would make marketing (making money) harder.
I think it's no coincidence that the Saints suddenly emerged as a playoff contender right after Katrina, that was a national feel-good story. We even had U2 making a special concert appearance and song about the team... it would have been a waste if the Saints went 4-12 with all that going on.
So, we got the benefits usually reserved for, say, the Cowboys (America's Team), or the Patriots (Brady).
But Payton wasn't gracious about it, got a little arrogant. And so Goodell has been punishing him and the Saints ever since. I think some times, it gets a bit too obvious, like the no-call (I don't think it was meant to be that obvious, but I do think the Rams were meant to win if at all possible).
If you look at the way things have gone, it makes some sense. Look at the Rams become a Super Bowl contender just as soon as they go to LA, and have a Super Bowl assigned to that city. This, after decades of being mediocre. Look at the Bucs, you take a team last in the division, give them Brady (a 40 yr old QB the Saints thoroughly dominated) and a few other guys, and they win the Super Bowl.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 8:42 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
Zero bullshite from me
Lots of denial on this board
As to be expected
This is tackle football, Karen.
A hard, clean, textbook hit that isnt flagged isnt a scandal no matter how bad you want it to be one. Especially in an era where the QB is overprotected. There isnt a D lineman in the history of the game that isnt taking that free shot on Warner. You can go look at ANY season for ANY team dating back to the fricking dawn of football and you are going to find hits like those.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 8:47 am
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:18 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
Kurt Warner and Brett Farve say hello.
Yep and it quite interesting to note that when asked Kurt Warner had gone on record as saying there was only one team they played where he thought he was being deliberately targeted for injury and it was not the Saints he named..
Brett was just in the twilight of his career and couldn't take the pressure the Saints could bring..
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:04 am to klrstix
We tried to take Warner out and he retired after that game.
Brett told his team that the Saints were headhunting him.
Brett is on record in an interview….
But he does admit the Saints defense was extra harsh in this game:
"Now, in that game there were some plays that, I don't want to say were odd, but I'd throw the ball and whack, on every play.
Hand it off, whack. Over and over.
Some were so blatant.
I hand the ball to Percy Harvin early and got drilled right in the chin.
They flagged that one at least."
I don’t care one way or the other…
I just don’t understand why so many fans are in denial about what happened.
And the everybody else does it, doesn’t mean we didn’t.
Brett told his team that the Saints were headhunting him.
Brett is on record in an interview….
But he does admit the Saints defense was extra harsh in this game:
"Now, in that game there were some plays that, I don't want to say were odd, but I'd throw the ball and whack, on every play.
Hand it off, whack. Over and over.
Some were so blatant.
I hand the ball to Percy Harvin early and got drilled right in the chin.
They flagged that one at least."
I don’t care one way or the other…
I just don’t understand why so many fans are in denial about what happened.
And the everybody else does it, doesn’t mean we didn’t.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:23 am to Rohan Gravy
frick Goodell
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:03 am to Rohan Gravy
quote:
We tried to take Warner out and he retired after that game.
Didn't seem that way to Warner:
Warner said he really doesn’t remember the Saints coming after him or hitting him that day much differently than any team would each week.
See full article
Brett Favre Quote:
"The only thing that really pisses me off about the whole thing is we lost the game. That’s the thing about that day that still bothers me. And that’s the way it goes. If they wanted me to testify in court about this, they’d be calling the wrong guy.”
See Full Article
Neither one of these support the idea that either Warner or Favre were experiencing anything during the game that they haven't encountered with every other team they play.
Bottom line is, the Saints became the scapegoat for a league that was looking to reduce the viciousness of the game across the league. It stinks that the Saints got the short-end of this straw but its history at this point..
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:37 pm to klrstix
Absolutely wrong.
I read the full article.
You should read it again.
Manly football players don’t go around crying about being hit.
That’s what Farve and Warner were expressing
But go ahead and keep believing there was no bounty by the Saints.
Go ahead and believe payton didn’t have his hand in the Vicodin cookie jar.
Go ahead and believe he and Loomis did not continue to associate with Orenstein.
Go ahead and believe that payton wasn’t chasing pussy.
Go ahead and believe payton wasn’t acting like an immature dickhead to Goodell.
BTW
Besides Orenstien and acting like a dickhead towards Goodell
I have NO problem with any of the other above
But to deny that any of this happened
Is just fantasy
But you and many other Saints fans enjoy living in your fantasy
Oh
Did other teams and coaches do these things?….
Of course
So what
We did it.
I read the full article.
You should read it again.
Manly football players don’t go around crying about being hit.
That’s what Farve and Warner were expressing
But go ahead and keep believing there was no bounty by the Saints.
Go ahead and believe payton didn’t have his hand in the Vicodin cookie jar.
Go ahead and believe he and Loomis did not continue to associate with Orenstein.
Go ahead and believe that payton wasn’t chasing pussy.
Go ahead and believe payton wasn’t acting like an immature dickhead to Goodell.
BTW
Besides Orenstien and acting like a dickhead towards Goodell
I have NO problem with any of the other above
But to deny that any of this happened
Is just fantasy
But you and many other Saints fans enjoy living in your fantasy
Oh
Did other teams and coaches do these things?….
Of course
So what
We did it.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:46 pm to klrstix
Brett Favre Quote:
"The only thing that really pisses me off about the whole thing is we lost the game.
That’s the thing about that day that still bothers me. And that’s the way it goes.
I’m If they wanted me to testify in court about this, they’d be calling the wrong guy.”
If only some Saints fans and payton would take this Man’s attitude
Instead of crying like babies.
Just go out and win the fricking game.
payton could never win another SuperBowl here
He blew many opportunities
I don’t think he’ll win another anywhere
Unless he is given a dream team opportunity
Like they were trying to put together in Miami
Just my opinion
"The only thing that really pisses me off about the whole thing is we lost the game.
That’s the thing about that day that still bothers me. And that’s the way it goes.
I’m If they wanted me to testify in court about this, they’d be calling the wrong guy.”
If only some Saints fans and payton would take this Man’s attitude
Instead of crying like babies.
Just go out and win the fricking game.
payton could never win another SuperBowl here
He blew many opportunities
I don’t think he’ll win another anywhere
Unless he is given a dream team opportunity
Like they were trying to put together in Miami
Just my opinion
Posted on 6/27/22 at 1:44 pm to Rohan Gravy
New option 9
Our team couldn't get it done when needed. The game where everyone complains about the pass interference, shite happens every game, but if drew brees is the GOD posters make him out to be, he could have scored a touchdown.
Goodell rigging saints games = non existent
Our team couldn't get it done when needed. The game where everyone complains about the pass interference, shite happens every game, but if drew brees is the GOD posters make him out to be, he could have scored a touchdown.
Goodell rigging saints games = non existent
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:06 pm to Wardniner01
So you showed up to tell the unwashed masses that Brees... is in fact NOT a God.
Wow.
Your service is a value to all mankind. Bless your heart!
Posted on 7/4/22 at 3:51 pm to Scoob
The scenario that makes the most sense is the soft fix was in for the colts and Manning to win that super bowl.
Saints and payton have paid for the onside kick and pick six ever since happened.
Saints and payton have paid for the onside kick and pick six ever since happened.
Posted on 7/4/22 at 5:10 pm to Rohan Gravy
Guy is a walking/talking piece of shite.
I know it's unhealthy to hate someone but last I checked...
Yep.
I hate him.
I know it's unhealthy to hate someone but last I checked...
Yep.
I hate him.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 4:41 pm to Rohan Gravy
The NFL hates Louisiana politicians because they have a particularly good knack at collecting league dirt when the show is in town.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 7/8/22 at 2:51 pm to keakar
quote:
He blames saints fans for exposing how the NFL rigs games and that did hurt their profits a good bit
he also had a personal hate for payton for calling him out about the cheating and that hate was mutual.
Can someone explain these two points?
This post was edited on 7/8/22 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/8/22 at 3:54 pm to goatmilker
quote:
So you showed up to tell the unwashed masses that Brees... is in fact NOT a God.
So you believe Goodell has a conspiracy against the saints?
Can you take me to the set where they faked the moon landing or hitlers home in Argentina where he lived a wonderful elderly life?
Grow a pair, brain or just milk your goat
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