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ESPN’s Mike Clay releases his team/unit projections

Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:15 pm


Interesting data? for anyone that’s curious. He seems to be saying interior d-line is a big issue
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:24 pm to
He seems to be saying so is qb.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:25 pm to
Makes the whole thing questionable
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:28 pm to
These are interesting.

First thing that popped to me was QB at 4. Then looked and saw Tenn at 5 w/ Cam, NYG at 7 w/ Dart, and LV at 4 (assuming this includes Mendoza).

Only NYJ, AZ, Clev & Pitt have a lower rating than NO.

Teams ranked 4: NO, Minn, Atl, LV & Miami
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

He seems to be saying interior d-line is a big issue


It is, and he is correct; however, he says every other position is also a big issue which destroys his credibility
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:32 pm to
QB being a 4 when the Raiders QB is also a 4 is absolutely absurd.

He basically did good team good bad team bad with little thought past looking at the names/contracts.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:33 pm to
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LV at 4 (assuming this includes Mendoza).
It shouldn't because this is supposed to be current plus the FA acquisitions from the last 2 days.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:34 pm to
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It shouldn't because this is supposed to be current plus the FA acquisitions from the last 2 days.

It does include Mendoza. There is a google doc with the full thing, it’s around page 61 that tells you the names of the players
Posted by Domeskeller
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:35 pm to
If you click the document and go to the Saints page, that is not the Saints schedule he has listed.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 12:36 pm
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:36 pm to
So we just assuming people then. xD

I know it seems like a far gone conclusion, but anything can happen between now and then.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:38 pm to
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click the document and go to the Saints page, that is not the Saints schedule he has listed.

I just double checked it and it’s our opponents for ‘26, the weeks aren’t correct is all
Posted by Gavin Elster
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:08 pm to
His QB rating makes this a load of nonsense. Just terrible trash.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Makes the whole thing questionable


I mean our current QBs are still Shough and Rattler. I’d assume the backup qb can still bring down a unit by a point or so if they’re considered really bad, especially if you don’t have a long tenured starter. You wouldn’t think Shough would be rated more than a 5 to maybe 6 if you’re being really optimistic when compared to the league as a whole given his very small sample size.

Also for as happy as we all are with Shough it wouldn’t be the craziest thing ever if he just kind of stagnated and was just a top 18ish guy when it all settled. I don’t think that’s the likely outcome but certainly still seems within the range of outcomes.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 1:18 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:17 pm to
I wouldn't mind bringing in a veteran backup QB
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:21 pm to
I wouldn’t either. It’s clearly Shough or bust until proven otherwise but we could use a veteran presence. I’m just saying how I see the case for relative low ratings here.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 1:22 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:24 pm to
Yes please. And bring in another udfa QB or two to compete for the three.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:38 pm to
He's a fantasy football nerd that thinks he's smarter than everyone else yet can't even win the ESPN fantasy leagues he's in with other fantasy pundits. I believe he was also touting Christian Watson as the second coming of Julio Jones a couple years back. Dude's an idiot
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:58 pm to
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if he just kind of stagnated and was just a top 18ish guy when it all settled

According to this guy's spreadsheet, a top 18 guy would have a value of 7.
Grade of 10: 3
9: 2
8: 5
7: 9
6: 2
5: 2
4: 5
3: 3
2: 1

Being a 4 puts Shough in the 25 - 29th spots.

Also, Saints QB stats: 65% completion, 4,283 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs, with another 320 yards & 4 TDs on the ground (Shough damn near had those rushing stats in 9 starts last year).

At a quick glance, these stats are comparable to Cincy (grade of 10), NYG (7), and just behind KC (9)
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:17 pm to
Interesting I wonder if he includes metrics for experience, wins, etc.

Or maybe he just didn’t update us
Posted by tzimme4
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 5:01 pm to
Tyler Shough has significant injury concerns playing a whole season. That's why he's probably rated so low. Dude couldn't stay healthy in college so why would that change now in the NFL
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