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re: ESPN ranks the Top 10 QBs (Carr with an HM)
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:31 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:31 pm to drizztiger
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We know Victory's take on Carr, he makes it known too often IMO.
Fair enough.
I’ll let you guys have your Carr party until the season starts. You won’t see me in any Carr-specific threads until then.
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Posted on 7/18/23 at 4:53 pm to VictoryHill
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Fair enough.
I’ll let you guys have your Carr party until the season starts. You won’t see me in any Carr-specific threads until then.
Btw, I'm not against you expressing your thought, it's just been the same over and over and over again. We get it.
ST is a fairly negative space in general, SFP is still calculating our cap space as I type.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:01 pm to VictoryHill
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Hence the qualifier “right now.”
I know, English comprehension and understanding is hard, lil guy.
Jones has never been, and is not now, better than Carr. You’re talking about a guy who had 2,800 total yards and 12 total TDs in 2021.
He had one decent season where he put up marginally better numbers, depending on what you decide to cherry pick. That doesn’t make him a better QB.
There’s a distinction better “better QB” and “better season” that you clearly don’t understand.
I don’t have a problem with the rest that were listed. It’s a crapshoot between 7 guys for the 9-15 spots. Daniel Jones isn’t in that group.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:18 pm to RB10
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Jones has never been, and is not now, better than Carr. You’re talking about a guy who had 2,800 total yards and 12 total TDs in 2021.
2021 isn't right now. You forgot to mention that he was working with a bottom 3 receiving group and an injured Saquon Barkley that year as well.
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He had one decent season where he put up marginally better numbers, depending on what you decide to cherry pick. That doesn’t make him a better QB. There’s a distinction better “better QB” and “better season” that you clearly don’t understand.
So he had a better season than Carr with low turnovers, carrying that bottom 3 receiving group, and performed out of his mind and won a road game in the playoffs. But he's not better than Carr right now after Carr was benched for Jarrett Stidham and was utter dogshit his last 4 games in LV with a completion percentage hovering just above 50% (had 8 total ~50% completion games last year as a matter of fact)?
Based on last year, he is a better QB than Derek Carr RIGHT NOW.
Here's a link to help you better understand:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/right%20now
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:25 pm to VictoryHill
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Based on last year, he is a better QB than Derek Carr RIGHT NOW.
Again, you don’t seem to understand the difference between “better QB” and “better season”.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:25 pm to RB10
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Again, you don’t seem to understand the difference between “better QB” and “better season”.
You do know rankings adjust from season to season based in large part on...last season, right?
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:27 pm to VictoryHill
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You do know rankings adjust from season to season based in large part on...last season, right?
You mean like the ones that this thread is based on? The ones that have Carr ahead of Jones?
Interesting.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:46 pm to RB10
Interesting indeed but that’s not what we’re discussing. I claimed that I had Carr 17th on the list (another thing about rankings, they’re subjective).
I said Derek Carr is not better than Daniel Jones right now. You said Carr’s history is better which is true. However, last season he was not better in any way - with tons more offensive talent to work with - than Daniel Jones. There is nothing that Derek Carr did better than Daniel Jones last year in the grand scheme of things. Hence, he was benched after a shitty 4 game run to end the season with super bad play coming from Carr in particular. This isn’t hard, but nuance isn’t your strong suit.
ETA: But hey, like I said, I’ll let you guys have your Carr circle jerk and deuce out, just be prepared to eat that limp biscuit in a few months.
I said Derek Carr is not better than Daniel Jones right now. You said Carr’s history is better which is true. However, last season he was not better in any way - with tons more offensive talent to work with - than Daniel Jones. There is nothing that Derek Carr did better than Daniel Jones last year in the grand scheme of things. Hence, he was benched after a shitty 4 game run to end the season with super bad play coming from Carr in particular. This isn’t hard, but nuance isn’t your strong suit.
ETA: But hey, like I said, I’ll let you guys have your Carr circle jerk and deuce out, just be prepared to eat that limp biscuit in a few months.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 5:49 pm to VictoryHill
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Interesting indeed but that’s not what we’re discussing. I said Derek Carr is not better than Daniel Jones right now.
It’s a top 10 list
They are literally saying Carr is better than Jones by being in the discussion. Just move on dude.
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There is nothing that Derek Carr did better than Daniel Jones last year in the grand scheme of things
Carr had his worst season ever and still had 9 more passing TDs and 2 more total TDs.
This post was edited on 7/18/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 7/18/23 at 7:52 pm to Suntiger
Jackson is a broken toy. You can't put someone in the top ten when they can't stay on the field.
Posted on 7/18/23 at 8:09 pm to Suntiger
Kyler Murray may not even play this season.
should be excluded off.
should be excluded off.
Posted on 7/21/23 at 1:58 pm to Suntiger
The only questionable one in the top 10 is Trevor Lawrence.
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