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dirty birds @ Saints initial thoughts

Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:21 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:21 pm
What's your early thoughts on the game?

There's a lotta folks on the dirty bird bandwagon. They cite the solid D and tremendous group of skill players. What I think is being missed is the potential weakness of their O-line. They lost their best OL, Clabo, to free agency. Replacement Lamar Holmes was the 4th worst OT out of 157 graded by PFF last year. LT Sam Baker seemed to mature and play solid last year. Going into last year the word bust was starting to mentioned because of injuries and such poor performance. They're also extremely thin on backup talent there in event of injuries.

The number of sacks, pressures, & hurries by our new D could be a vital factor in the outcome of the first game.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

What's your early thoughts on the game?



Hey falcons:

Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:34 pm to


No but seriously, there will be a lot of screams for help.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted by WarmBubble
Member since May 2007
1891 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:35 pm to
DB's need to step up and make plays. Hopefully Lewis got his rust off from Andre Johnson. Vaccaro could be the wild card.
If he comes in and shuts down Gonzalez like we drafted him to do, we will win. Jackson will get his rushing yards. Just need to prevent the big plays.
Posted by 9BREES9
Thibodaux
Member since Jan 2009
1370 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:39 pm to
I agree with you Blues. Hopefully Galette and Wilson can get back on the field. You know darn well they held back a ton in preseason. Falcons O really have no film to go off of for this new defense. I'll say Saints O do what they do and some new faces make an early impact and state their case that this D will be different this season. Vaccaro lays the wood to White early and Lewis picks little Matty off.
Posted by shortstop1627
shreveport
Member since Aug 2008
1272 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Jackson will get his rushing yards.
this I am not so sure of. He looks really slow.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:42 pm to
I made mention of Jackson's potential downfall as a runner in another thread.

The Rams Oline was much better at run blocking last year than the Falcons, and this year the Falcons line has gotten even worse. And it showed in the preseason.

He does bring a legit threat in the passing game.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14739 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:44 pm to
It will be a replay of the Saints-Vikings rematch of 2010.

Vikings were all set to prove to the world how "great" they were in 2009. And with their offseason acquisitions added to their already "great" team, they were sure they were gonna destroy the Saints and then the league.

They didn't realize how hard it is to re-ignite the same chemistry of a great season, how lucky it is to stay healthy, or get the same breaks & miracle endings.

The Vikings lost to the Saints 14-9, then went 6-10 for the season.

Now the Falcons have a suspect OL, a rebuilt secondary, and have heavily invested false hope in their newest used cars: Umenyiora & Jackson.

The Falcons will lose to the Saints and their season will be a sure disappointment.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:50 pm to
They are gifted in skill players, and I think to counter that, we need to be extra physical. Off the snap. Off the line. FU. You don't go out on your route until we say so.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

It will be a replay of the Saints-Vikings rematch of 2010


great analogy freek!
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:28 pm to
Over/under 5 sacks, I'm taking the over.
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by WarmBubble
Member since May 2007
1891 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:26 pm to
I'll take the under, but over 7 in hurries.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 2:29 pm
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Now the Falcons have a suspect OL, a rebuilt secondary, and have heavily invested false hope in their newest used cars: Umenyiora & Jackson.

The Falcons will lose to the Saints and their season will be a sure disappointment.


aaallllllll of that.

Seven days cannot pass quickly enough

Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Seven days cannot pass quickly enough


Agreed. This week is going to be even slower than the past week was.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63441 posts
Posted on 9/2/13 at 8:17 am to
I am absolutely convinced the Saints win. If not, my entire season may be fricked up.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/2/13 at 8:39 am to
quote:

tremendous group of skill players.

Really the only thing that concerns me.

quote:

solid D

Considering they'll be depending on two rookies to contribute at DB, I'd say they're far from solid. No one on their D-line really scares me although they're usually pretty solid. Weatherspoon is an animal, but their other LB's are just alright.

quote:

potential weakness of their O-line.

This is absolutely going to determine the game IMO. As you mentioned they lost Clabo but people forget Todd McClure also retired who was very, very solid for them. I look for Ryan to bring some crazy pressure in this game. I just hope we don't play off coverage behind it like Williams used to do still allowing easy catches.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 9/2/13 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Falcons O really have no film to go off of for this new defense.

This is also pretty big
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 9/2/13 at 11:46 am to
Another game that will go down to the wire. Saints 41 falcons 38
Posted by LooseCannon22282
Mobile
Member since May 2008
33704 posts
Posted on 9/2/13 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

What I think is being missed is the potential weakness of their O-line.


one thing I noticed last year was that Sedrick Ellis actually played pretty well against them. I'm not sure who was blocking him on ATL's O-line though.

that first play of the game in ATL he drove his man off the ball and disrupted Matt Ryan's throwing lane. Ryan made a poor throw that should have been picked off by Malcolm Jenkins but of course, he dropped it.

I think where Ellis lined up would have been over their right guard. That looks like it could be a weak spot.
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