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re: Did Tom Benson sign off on Roger's NFL extension?
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:51 am to saints5021
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:51 am to saints5021
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I will never understand why Benson didn't come out against the league during bounty gate.
I would guess the NFL said something like:
You will accept these penalties and sanctions and be quiet about it or we will railroad your entire franchise into the ground every year until it's dead.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:09 am to Northwestern tiger
I had a customer of mine a couple years back that played in the NFL during the bounty gate time. I would compare him to a Kelemete type player. He played 4-5 years but was never a full time starter, never played for the Saints. During 2012 season he made the final cut after preseason, but a week or 2 in he was cut and picked up by another team. Needless to say he had 2 teams worth of thoughts from players and coaches of the bounty gate stuff.
He said it was well known throughout the league of most players and coaches of being total crap. He also told me that both teams the coaches stressed the players to keep their mouths shut about it in the public during that time. Obviously the penalties were brutal and teams didn't wanna be in the middle of it due to a player opening their mouths about it. He was friends with a Saint player who was picked up in 2013 after all that but didn't last long on the roster. He said the player, no name guy and can't remember, said you could tell by talking to the guys how upset everyone was at the league, and he felt strongly also the Saints got that kind of punishment and reputation, even though the dude was cut not long after.
He said it was well known throughout the league of most players and coaches of being total crap. He also told me that both teams the coaches stressed the players to keep their mouths shut about it in the public during that time. Obviously the penalties were brutal and teams didn't wanna be in the middle of it due to a player opening their mouths about it. He was friends with a Saint player who was picked up in 2013 after all that but didn't last long on the roster. He said the player, no name guy and can't remember, said you could tell by talking to the guys how upset everyone was at the league, and he felt strongly also the Saints got that kind of punishment and reputation, even though the dude was cut not long after.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:12 am to windshieldman
As far as Benson during BG, I don't remember him saying much. I remember him releasing a statement over the Loomis wiretapping stuff. That was a huge deal for like a week and once it was found to be untrue, the league nor ESPN ever came back to mention anything about it, the wiretapping crap.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:12 am to Northwestern tiger
Someone has to change Benson’s diaper and remind him it’s not 1946 every day.
I doubt he even knows who Roger Gooddell is anymore.
I doubt he even knows who Roger Gooddell is anymore.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:16 am to windshieldman
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As far as Benson during BG, I don't remember him saying much.
He brought in a high profile investigative team to do a review after the league came down with their findings. We never heard anything about that investigation so I would assume it resulted in some pretty significant findings.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 10:30 am to SippyCup
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He brought in a high profile investigative team to do a review after the league came down with their findings. We never heard anything about that investigation so I would assume it resulted in some pretty significant findings.
There were reports at the time that nothing substantial was found during the investigation. Didn’t Free or whatever his name was even mention it, or was that the wiretapping investigation? I do remember an article on Nola saying all evidence found from the independent investigations of BG would be turned over to the league, and if nothing came out about it that was a good thing for the Saints.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:18 am to saints5021
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I will never understand why Benson didn't come out against the league during bounty gate.
Especially after this. These are transcripts from Joe Vitt's testimony concerning Bountygate.
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Ginsberg asked Vitt about an interview with NFL investigators Joe Hummel and Jeff Miller in March 2012: "Jeff Miller and Joe Hummel showed me documents, and they said that I think it was 8-10 players had testified to these documents are true and, you know, that some coaches have come in and said that these documents - corroborated these documents and there's a bounty program in place. And I was absolutely shocked. And I could remember like it was yesterday looking at Joe Hummel and Jeff Miller in the face saying, you've got two guys responsible for this. This is Mike Cerullo, and this is Gregg Williams, both disgruntled employees that have been fired at our company. They denied even knowing who Mike Cerullo was, but they agreed with me that, yeah, Gregg Williams is a little crazy. They both agreed with me on that. So I would say that it wasn't a very good meeting."
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"And by the way, the second time I talked to investigators - I'm sorry, I forgot about this. The investigators, Jeff Miller in particular, acknowledged that I did not give any money to a bounty because he said to me, you know, we heard that your wife is so cheap that you have a hard time getting lunch money every day. That was his comment to me. And I said, well, your wife must have a pretty good sense of humor, too, with the clothes you're wearing right now. So they acknowledged that.
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Vitt on if Miller made other flippant remarks like the ones he made about Vitt's wife: "He was down at the game two weeks ago against the Philadelphia Eagles, and he was on our sideline. And he was over with our director of security, Danny Lawless, and he started laughing at Danny a little bit and said, 'Hey, maybe I should just go up to the sideline and say hello to Joe Vitt, he'd be glad to see me.' And Danny looked at him and couldn't believe it. He thought it was so funny, I guess, because I was just coming off my second game after my seven-week suspension.
"I guess it's a joke. I guess it's just a big joke. I can tell you, there's no one in New Orleans laughing, and no one in our organization is laughing. I'll tell you who is not laughing, is our owner Mr. Benson. Because Jeff Miller took a plane ride from New York down to New Orleans, and the way he talked to our owner, what he said to our owner made me want to throw up, to the point where Mr. Benson kicked him off the property and didn't let him back on the property; the third time when I talked to Jeff Miller at the Hilton.
"This is - let me tell you something. This almost killed our owner. Our owner has done nothing but be a great owner in the National Football League the whole time he's been in the league. ... And now this guy takes a plane ride down and throws some documents in front of our owner's face, and our owner has got to kick him out of the building? That's what we're dealing with. That's fine."
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Vitt went after Miller once again when he was asked about the next time he heard that there was any kind of NFL interest in the Saints referring to Miller as "Mr. Tough Guy Jeff Miller" who "spewed all the stuff on the desk and starting berating Mr. Benson."
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:07 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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With Jones and Kraft against him, who the hell approved his extension?
Jones and Kraft have long been the power players but Blank is trying to lead a coalition of other owners to supplant them. This is nothing more than a power play for him. Back Goodell then he know that he owes you. Jones and Kraft might find their influence waning. It seems that Benson ended up backing the wrong horse.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:15 pm to Northwestern tiger
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so who is in charge?
His wife?
only a little bit when it comes to the franchise. in other matters, she rules supreme.
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:32 pm to Mike Honcho
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Dear Owners,
Please see the below message sent on behalf of the Compensation Committee.
All,
In recent days, we have spoken with each of you individually regarding the status of the negotiations to extend Commissioner Goodell's employment contract. In the course of those discussions, we have reviewed with you the details of the contract extension. Our Committee unanimously supports the contract and believes that it is fully consistent with "market" compensation and the financial and other parameters outlined to the owners at our May 2017 meeting, as well as in the best interests of ownership. We also have expressed in those conversations our strong and unanimous belief that we should proceed to sign the agreement now, consistent with the unanimous May resolution and to avoid further controversy surrounding this issue. We are pleased to report that there is a nearly unanimous consensus among the ownership in favor of signing the contract extension now.
Accordingly, this will advise the ownership that a binding contract extension has been signed by the Commissioner and by Arthur Blank, on behalf of the League entities.
We are pleased to have resolved this issue and we appreciate the strong support received from our partners. It was particularly gratifying to hear so many owners commit to being more engaged in League affairs and to express the desire to work more closely with the Commissioner and League staff on matters critical to the League. We know that we speak for all of you, as well as for the Commissioner, in saying that the NFL is strongest when our ownership is active and unified.
We look forward to seeing each of you at the Special Meeting in Dallas on December 13th and to working together, as a partnership, to address the important issues facing the League.
Sincerely,
Compensation Committee:
Arthur Blank, Chairman
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Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:42 pm to BigBrod81
I used to hate Jones. He’s now my favorite owner.
I also think deflate gate was rigged for ratings, like our last game with Atlanta.
I also think deflate gate was rigged for ratings, like our last game with Atlanta.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 7:23 am to Northwestern tiger
Benson is senile and is not active in the organization. Loomis makes the calls, tells
Gail what to do, and Gail tells Benson to say yes or no. That’s how the Saints are managed now.
Gail what to do, and Gail tells Benson to say yes or no. That’s how the Saints are managed now.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:59 am to Northwestern tiger
The league pressed back hard against JJ. He was removed from 1 committee and they there was talk of getting him ousted from ownership if he kept it up.
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