re: Deuce or PT?

Posted by 3HourTour

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:44 pm to xXLSUXx

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Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:45 pm to xXLSUXx

Equal talents.

Pierre had a few things going against him to where he couldn't put up monster season like deuce

Posted by IgotKINGfisherSpeed

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:46 pm to Froman

Deuce in his prime is all our running backs today combined into one.

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Posted by Elleshoe

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:46 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed

wrong thread

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Posted by xXLSUXx

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:48 pm to Elleshoe

I thought I got transported into the in-game thread.

Posted by Pectus

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:49 pm to xXLSUXx

Can't compare them. Apples and oranges.

This video is proof that Aaron Stecker is the best RB in Saints history.

Posted by LSUgators

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 7:49 pm to IgotKINGfisherSpeed

Posted by LsuSaintsMan

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:11 pm to Lester Earl

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Posted by Lester Earl Equal talents. Pierre had a few things going against him to where he couldn't put up monster season like deuce

you people are killing me here.... Deuce and it's not even close for one reason. He used to carry the ball 20-25 times per game plus 3-5 receptions EVERY GAME! There were years when he was like 65% of our offense. It was Joe Horn and him and that's it.

Pierre while very very talented could never take that punishment week in and week out. Plus he has never been the focus of the offense for the opposing defense to key on.

Finally, it's 4th and goal on the 1 with the game on the line who ya giving it to?

This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 10:14 pm

Posted by Billy Mays

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:15 pm to LSUgators

PT is the greatest screen-pass-catcher in Saints history. Hell, maybe one of the best ever, he is a simply the master of the screen pass catch.

Other than that, Deuce.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:16 pm to LsuSaintsMan

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Pierre while very very talented could never take that punishment week in and week out. Plus he has never been the focus of the offense for the opposing defense to key on.

who knows if he could or not?

he never had too. It's not really his fault.

Which is why i said... talent wise, they are fairly equal. Pierre always had other RBs to share carries.

Pierre is a career 4.8 YPC running back. And he is one of the 3 best screen RB's in the league.

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He used to carry the ball 20-25 times per game plus 3-5 receptions EVERY GAME! There were years when he was like 65% of our offense.

you're memory might be a little off. He had like 2 seasons where he was able to do this and stay fully healthy.

Posted by LsuSaintsMan

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:16 pm to Billy Mays

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PT is the greatest screen-pass-catcher in Saints history. Hell, maybe one of the best ever, he is a simply the master of the screen pass catch. Other than that, Deuce.

true statement

Posted by VOR

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:18 pm to MinnesotaTiger

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That Deuce was great - but the 2006 2007 Deuce was inferior to 2009 Pierre Thomas.

But that's not the question. The question was "who in their prime"? Easily, Deuce. Really not that close.

Posted by LsuSaintsMan

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:22 pm to Lester Earl

Deuce stats

Rushing
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Att
2001 23 NOR KR 26 16 4 16
2002* 24 NOR RB 26 15 15 325
2003* 25 NOR RB 26 16 16 351
2004 26 NOR RB 26 14 14 269
2005 27 NOR rb 26 5 5 93
2006 28 NOR RB 26 15 13 244
2007 29 NOR rb 26 3 3 24
2008 30 NOR rb 26 13 6 107

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Posted by Hugo Stiglitz

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:26 pm to Breesus

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Anyone that says PT has never watched Deuce play a game

In their prime, in today's game I would take PT over Deuce.

PT is a more complete package RB IMO.

Posted by LsuSaintsMan

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:27 pm to LsuSaintsMan

More Deuce stats

Career Rushing yards: 6096
Career Total TDs: 54
Career Total Recieving yds: 1720

This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 10:28 pm

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:28 pm to LsuSaintsMan

2 seasons over 300 carries. like i said.

he never played a full season after those 2 seasons.

I love em both. But Pierre has been one of the most underrated guys in the Payton era. He is great.

Posted by Lester Earl

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:31 pm to Lester Earl

if you compare the 2, the only thing Deuce did better than Pierre was be able to break away once in the 2nd level. But that trait died after a few years, unfortunately.

Everything, they are pretty much equals.

Posted by LsuSaintsMan

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Posted on 8/17/12 at 10:36 pm to Lester Earl

Pierre stats

Rushing
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Att
2007 23 NOR KR 23 12 1 52
2008 24 NOR KR 23 15 5 129
2009 25 NOR rb 23 14 6 147
2010 26 NOR rb 23 6 3 83
2011 27 NOR rb 23 16 7 110

Deuce played 13+ games every season but 2.... Pierre has only played 13+ games 3 out of 5 yrs, but yeah probably more even then I thought

This post was edited on 8/17/12 at 10:41 pm