Belichick had losing seasons 4 of his first 5 seasons, and he was fired after year 5. Goes to NE, and he has another losing season. Then he blew up.

No, I'm not saying Allen will be Belichick.

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Posted by VictoryHill

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Member since Nov 2013

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Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:35 pm to msstate7

Well if Dennis Allen finds the next Tom Brady - which recency bias will tell you NE success had far more to do with than Belichick - more power to him.

I like Haener a ton so you never know.

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Posted by Weekend Warrior79

Member since Aug 2014

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Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:48 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer

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I’m not sure Dennis Allen is a bad coach, but he hasn’t done anything yet to prove he’s a good one,

Regardless of what you think of DA. If you have someone as 27th out of 32; you’re saying their a bad coach. If you’re not sure if they’re bad, shouldn’t they be ranked higher?

Not saying I don’t disagree with the ranking; especially considering his record, just commenting on the guy waffling on his ranking

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Posted by Chrome

Chromeville

Member since Nov 2007

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Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:15 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer

They have done a good job assembling a team. Now what he does with it remains to be seen.

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Posted by soccerfüt

Location: A Series of Tubes

Member since May 2013

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:30 am to stopitnow1

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It only takes one season to flip the narrative

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stopitnow1

Please

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Posted by moneyg

Member since Jun 2006

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:18 am to msstate7

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Allen will finally make the playoffs this season

unlikely

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Posted by msstate7

Member since Oct 2014

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:34 am to moneyg

Caesar's...
Saints +115
Atlanta +260

Draftkings...
Saints +115
Atlanta +250

I wouldn't say it's unlikely

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Posted by LSUZombie

A Cemetery Near You

Member since Apr 2008

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 8:39 am to Major Dutch Schaefer

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rank him all the way down at No. 27 out of the league’s 32 head coaches.

This is about where he belongs until proven otherwise.

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I’m not sure Dennis Allen is a bad coach, but he hasn’t done anything yet to prove he’s a good one,

This is mostly true, though Tucker is being a tad dishonest here in his opening statement. Allen is a bad coach until he shows he's not.

The only credit I can give Allen for last year is his teams never quit and he never lost the team.

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Posted by Damone

FoCo

Member since Aug 2016

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:01 am to Major Dutch Schaefer

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I’m not sure Dennis Allen is a bad coach

I am

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Posted by tucoco

Las Vegas

Member since Mar 2021

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Posted on 5/30/23 at 10:54 am to LSUZombie

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The only credit I can give Allen for last year is his teams never quit and he never lost the team.

yes, this is true, he has never lost the team and the players really like the guy, I noticed that last season. He seems to be a real likable player's coach type of guy, and now if he can only turn that into Ws, he'll be fine then. What I don't like about him is his passive, soft personality that shows NO damn fire whatsoever. Smh
As a player or if I played for him, I want a coach that shows a rage and fire inside that you know has your back, and will light a fire underneath you to go get after it on the football field. A coach that goes after the officials when they make a lousy call, that's a coach that is gonna win games. That's what Payton had going for him even though he could be an arse at times.