Could trading Bush help this team?

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I know PT isn't the same game changer Bush could be, but he is way cheaper.

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we are still responsible for Bush's contract if we trade him

HELLLL NO we dont need to get rid of Bush. If he wants to leave, then all the best to him, but he is too fricking valuable to our team to get rid of him. He requires attention every time he gets the ball (besides running between the tackles) and is a gamechanger. We HAVE the RB here, Pierre, and its up to Payton to get him more involved. This years draft is loaded with LT's and that is where our first rounder should go. That would solve the LT position, and move Brown over to where he is best, RT. The only other major need is a FS. The pieces are here, and we do NOT need to get rid of Bush for more draft picks. Bush's inside running will get better with a better run blocking OLine that doesnt stop blocking after maybe a half a second because they think Bush is past them. Our offense is pretty damn good right now, and shoring up that line will make it such a better running team if Payton calls the right plays.

I know I got off topic a little, but NO we should NOT trade Bush.

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Is it just impossible to trade him due to financial situations?

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Basically. This year. Next could be more feasible.

To keep it simple, a player's contract is made up of signing bonus money and "salary."

But his salary for "salary cap" purposes, the hit against the cap, will include the signing bonus, which is divided evenly over the length of the contract

When you cut a player pre 6/1 or trade a player in the middle of his contract, you are no longer responsible for his salary, but the signing bonus still counts against your salary cap. And this bonus is "accelerated"--meaning the entire cap hit of the original contract yet to be played out will be counted for the next year.

Now Bush signed a new contract this year. His original contract, per here, ended in 2011. He had $10M in bonus money remaining to be pro-rated.

The other bonuses wre "not likely to be earned" so wouldn't count as a cap hit unless he actually earned them
(and was paid out on them). The new contract still runs through 2011, the salary portion has changed.
It adds a $4.5M roster bonus for 2009 (an $0.49m in 2010), a $1.5M "likely to be earned" (LTBE) bonus in
2009 & 2010, and another LTBE bonus of $0.7M in 2011 and a new $4M signing bonus (SB)

So by my counting, his contract (cap hit by year) looks like this:

2008: $1.575m sal, $2.5m old bonus + $1m new SB = $5.075M
2009: $2.6m sal, $2.5m old bonus + $1m new SB + $1.5m LTBE + $4.5m roster bonus = $12.1m
2010: $8.0m sal, $2.5m old bonus + $1m new SB + $1.5M LTBE + $0.49m roster bonus = $13.49m
2011: $11.8m sal, $2.5m old bonus + $1m new SB + $0.7M LTBE = $16.0m

So if we cut/trade him before the 2009 season his cap hit becomes (they only count the signing bonuses in that case):
$7.5M old bonus + $3M new bonus = $10.5M. Whereas we'd only be paying him $8.6M if he played (signing bonus doesn't count, that's already paid).

If we cut/trade him before 2010, his cap hit is $7m. We'd be paying him $10m if he played.


Now I think if we cut him after June 1, you could split that cap hit over 2 years...

Anyway, this is how I understand it

Why would anyone even think of wanting to cut a guy who, if he hadn't gotten injured, would be going to the pro bowl

I'll say it like I said in another thread, overlooking the fact that trading Bush would be a huge cap hit we couldn't take, why would anyone wanna trade a guy, who, before he got injured, was going to the probowl, and who was in the top 3 in the league in scoring?

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we are still responsible for Bush's contract if we trade him

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only the pro-rated portion of his signing bonus (which is a lot)

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if he hadn't gotten injured

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If.
I love the "if" game.

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Could trading Bush help this team?

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Sorry, don't know how I got "cut" in my head. Even still, why would you want to do that, he's integral to the offense in the passing game.

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Could trading Bush help this team?

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I just don't get these threads, and I was in the "trade down with the Jets to get Brick and Mangold to upgrade the line" camp when he was drafted. Reggie Bush is not what needs fixing on this team (besides learning to run north/south of course). What this team needs are some upgrades on defense and the line. And the line probably doesn't need as much upgrading as it needs to execute run plays more often so they don't forget how to run block.

I'd agree with most of the threads, our primary needs are DC, FS, OLB, OL and Payton to be about 20% less cute with his playcalling. We should be able to get most of that in the offseason without trading away any important players.

lendale white..


but i really think we need to focus on defense because until we stop some1 we are never gonna win close ball games.