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re: Cooks is a bust
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:56 am to Brandincookem
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:56 am to Brandincookem
Alot of the things you are saying are true:
Brandin Cooks has no wiggle in his hips, he simply cant make anyone miss.
He cant out jump defenders because he is 5'10"
And youre right, he is not a #1 wide receiver
But, he isnt a bust. Maybe underwhelming for his draft position and what we had to give up to get him, but definitely not a bust.
Yes, i would rather have Jarvis Landry in the second round. we should have traded up a few pics in the second to get him. I said it then and ill say it till i die. ask Tigerbait, we ve had a nice discussion on landry and cooks although the definition of versatility goes over his head. I do know what youre saying about the "eye test", and i agree. People put too much emphasis on stats and disregard watching the guys play. No, Brandin Cooks will never be great, but he will be good as long as he plays his role. He has good hands, elite speed, and even with NO elusiveness, he can be a game changer.
Brandin Cooks has no wiggle in his hips, he simply cant make anyone miss.
He cant out jump defenders because he is 5'10"
And youre right, he is not a #1 wide receiver
But, he isnt a bust. Maybe underwhelming for his draft position and what we had to give up to get him, but definitely not a bust.
Yes, i would rather have Jarvis Landry in the second round. we should have traded up a few pics in the second to get him. I said it then and ill say it till i die. ask Tigerbait, we ve had a nice discussion on landry and cooks although the definition of versatility goes over his head. I do know what youre saying about the "eye test", and i agree. People put too much emphasis on stats and disregard watching the guys play. No, Brandin Cooks will never be great, but he will be good as long as he plays his role. He has good hands, elite speed, and even with NO elusiveness, he can be a game changer.
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Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:58 am to DatNolaClap
quote:
No, Brandin Cooks will never be great
Want to give me a palm reading as well?
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:58 am to CocoLoco
Lol, No, just no.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:03 am to TigerBait1127
Dont even start with this shite again.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:06 am to DatNolaClap
quote:
Yes, i would rather have Jarvis Landry in the second round. we should have traded up a few pics in the second to get him. I said it then and ill say it till i die.
Cooks has more:
Yards
higher Yards per catch (10.0 vs 14.0)
TDs (4 to 9)
at least you are consistently wrong in your opinion
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:08 am to Chad504boy
I wish you people could learn to watch players play firsthand and see their skillset and not just rattle off stats from a player who is the number one option on a team with a HOF QB who is losing nearly every game and needs to throw to have a chance. If B Cooks would learn to come back to the ball to make of for his short stature he could actually be really good. I can still picture that josh norman pick in my head. The pass was short but Cooks has got to come back to the ball and try to make a play. you cant always just wait for the ball to come to you in the NFL.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:11 am to Brandincookem
Thats what tigerbait does man, he cannot and will never be able to, get past the stats.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:12 am to DatNolaClap
quote:
needs to throw to have a chance
Landry has had 31 more targets than Cooks.
quote:
who is losing nearly every game
Saints have more wins than Dolphins
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:17 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Cooks has more:
Yards
higher Yards per catch (10.0 vs 14.0)
TDs (4 to 9)
at least you are consistently wrong in your opinion
Snead is kind of Landry'ish. so Snead for free compared to Jarvis for a 2nd is very good value for us.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:18 am to Mystery
where is your comparison between drew Brees and Ryan Tannehill? Also note the dolphins have landry run 5 yard routes all the time. And before Lester comes in here saying, "because thats all he can run". 
Landry is not used to his full potential but im hoping the new coach next year will change that. Landry > Cooks 
Landry is not used to his full potential but im hoping the new coach next year will change that. Landry > Cooks 
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:20 am to Chad504boy
quote:
Snead is kind of Landry'ish. so Snead for free compared to Jarvis for a 2nd is very good value for us.
Snead is better than Landry.
Take into consideration he has just 136 yards less than Landry does, despite 38 less receptions, despite missing 1 game. only a fool would take Landry over Snead
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:27 am to Lester Earl
Well i guess every NFL analyst, commentator, and coach is a fool, because i dont think anyone (maybe besides Sean Payton) would take Snead over Landry. Maybe you should consider a career change. Maybe you can be an NFL scout. You seem to be very experienced in the field of looking up stats on the internet and copy/pasting them to tigerdroppings.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
quote:
Snead is better than Landry.
Take into consideration he has just 136 yards less than Landry does, despite 38 less receptions, despite missing 1 game. only a fool would take Landry over Snead
unless you want to rustle feathers, not sure i would go that far. I do love snead though. At some point you have to take into account Brees vs Tannehill.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:31 am to DatNolaClap
you are the only person that thinks a 4.75 runner can get down field more than he is already. 
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:32 am to Chad504boy
quote:
unless you want to rustle feathers, not sure i would go that far. I do love snead though. At some point you have to take into account Brees vs Tannehill.
what can Landry do that Snead cant?
as far as taking into account QB play, Landry has 56 MORE targets than Snead does. Not saying there isnt a QB difference, but that is a shite ton more of opportunities
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:33 am to DatNolaClap
quote:I'll take stats over some moron's "eyeball test"
Thats what tigerbait does man, he cannot and will never be able to, get past the stats.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:34 am to DatNolaClap
Cooks has the same amount of TDs this year as Landry has in his career. And Landry has a lot more targets.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:34 am to Lester Earl
I've already established that that time was a fluke as he was injured and he runs around 4.5, but ignorance is a troll's bliss i guess.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:35 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:36 am to Lester Earl
Wouldn't go that far.
Landry is a very good player. Like Snead a lot; he's a more physical Lance Moore, but I couldn't take him over Landry.
Cooks>Landry though.
Landry is a very good player. Like Snead a lot; he's a more physical Lance Moore, but I couldn't take him over Landry.
Cooks>Landry though.
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