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re: Carr is currently the #4 qb in rating in the league.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:22 pm to Townedrunkard
Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:22 pm to Townedrunkard
Bryce Young’s three leading receivers were rookies. I mean, where do we draw the line? Every team has adversity. And as I’ve said many times, Carr has played some good games, and the roster being questionable isn’t his fault. But consistency is the differentiator, and this team cannot overcome inconsistent play from the QB
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 5:44 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Are there QBs who don’t have bad games? Again, Lamar and Allen this year: 4 best - 89.9 4 worst - 46.2 That is Josh Allen. 4 best - 91.5 4 worst - 55.9 Lamar.
Well done. Facts make the morons mad though.
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Let me respond to you to this post as you would. “Stop being an emotional pussy who’s always angry spewing stupid untrue stats. Man you’re on some nuclear melt. I just call this shite out like I see it. You would understand me if you weren’t so angry.”
How’d I do?
Poorly. You got hit with facts and have nothing left but this pathetic shite.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:02 pm to GynoSandberg
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Bryce Young’s three leading receivers were rookies.
That’s a very disingenuous statement comparing his receivers to ours.
He was playing with a first round pick at receiver and also a 2nd round pick at receiver from the year before.
So you believe the talent level of both of them are on par with Tipton, an udfa rookie? All rookie receivers are the same?
If so there’s no point in carrying on this convo….
Ill even add that none of those guys can even get on the field now. They’ve been replaced by three guys off the street in MVS, Pettis, and Austin.
Pretty telling that we are rolling out there with three receivers that are starting that weren’t on this roster a month ago. And you act like that’s not a big deal?
Can you name one other qb in the league whose top three receivers weren’t in training camp or even on the preseason team.
I’ll wait….
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:33 pm to GynoSandberg
I used QBR, passer rating, and PFF bc they all support Carr is having a good season. That's 3 metrics that all paint the same picture, but somehow you break them down by game to say something the overall season stat doesn't support.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 6:44 pm to Townedrunkard
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That’s a very disingenuous statement comparing his receivers to ours.
His 3 leading pass catchers were rookies, not sure how that is disingenuous. If I thought our pass catchers trumped theirs I would’ve said it. Bryce Young has the 42nd best passer rating in the league; the worst starter in the league, on a one win team, throwing to rookies.
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Pretty telling that we are rolling out there with three receivers that are starting that weren’t on this roster a month ago. And you act like that’s not a big deal?
Of course it’s a big deal. But MVS has 100 NFL games under his belt and Pettis another 50+. We should have had guys like on the roster from jump. And the learning curve for those guys isn’t that of a rookie or guy with minimal experience. Carr is posting these great passer rating games with these guys, you need to decide if he’s being held back or not. If you’re giving him the credit then you open yourself up to questioning other games.
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If so there’s no point in carrying on this convo….
Prob should’ve happened page 1
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:09 pm to P bean
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Poorly. You got hit with facts and have nothing left but this pathetic shite.
Ok pea brain. Thanks for your comments and adding nothing else to the discussion as usual. Its what you do best.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:16 pm to GynoSandberg
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Prob should’ve happened page 1
Theres just a huge divide with how fans feel about Carr. If you go look up old Raiders fan blogs its the same thing. Some fans talk up his good stats and others will be like yeah but he doesn’t really win. And both are true to an extent.
Eventually the team will release him and he never should have been signed to begin with. Carr is a forgettable QB that you can’t build anything around.
The dude in 2 years will be a backup and no one will care.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 7:58 pm to Pels_Yaz
It's fair to say, Carr being on this team doesn't allow you to either tank nor win it all considering how the team is currently constructed.
It's also fair to say, Carr is at worst an average QB in this league - who needs help to be above average.
It's also fair to say, Carr had some absolutely stupid and mind blowing decisions/throws that coated us games.
It's also fair to say, Carr had some damn good throws and plays to ice and dominate games.
Both sides can be true, the issue is that the naysayers make him out to be Bryce young caliber when reality is he's more like a Matt Stafford.
It's also fair to say, Carr is at worst an average QB in this league - who needs help to be above average.
It's also fair to say, Carr had some absolutely stupid and mind blowing decisions/throws that coated us games.
It's also fair to say, Carr had some damn good throws and plays to ice and dominate games.
Both sides can be true, the issue is that the naysayers make him out to be Bryce young caliber when reality is he's more like a Matt Stafford.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:13 pm to GynoSandberg
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Of course it’s a big deal. But MVS has 100 NFL games under his belt and Pettis another 50+. We should have had guys like on the roster from jump. And the learning curve for those guys isn’t that of a rookie or guy with minimal experience. Carr is posting these great passer rating games with these guys, you need to decide if he’s being held back or not. If you’re giving him the credit then you open yourself up to questioning other games.
They have games played but there’s a reason they are available mid season. Definition of journeyman level replacement player.
That’s on Loomis having piss poor #3 - #5 receivers to open the season. Like I said, correct me if I’m wrong, is any other qb throwing to his top 3 receivers picked up off the street midseason?
As far as rookies go, you actually believe Tipton is on the same level as Legette and Mingo talent wise since you mentioned it? 1st and 2nd round talents?
Carr has been pretty good considering the circumstances this year. His worse game was the eagles, and if you recall, I think our entire interior line was out and the two eagles DT’s absolutely destroyed us. He had no time to throw that entire game and was under constant pressure. Up the gut pressure is the worse. No qb would have success under those circumstances.
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Bryce Young has the 42nd best passer rating in the league; the worst starter in the league, on a one win team, throwing to rookies
And yet you placed blame on Carr for losing with his average qb play instead of the defense for allowing him to put up 23…..
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 11/20/24 at 8:25 pm to htran90
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Both sides can be true, the issue is that the naysayers make him out to be Bryce young caliber when reality is he's more like a Matt Stafford.
I would lean more towards prime Andy Dalton but I get your point.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:42 am to Pels_Yaz
Basing it on current qbs
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