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re: Carr is currently the #4 qb in rating in the league.

Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
RB10 showed the lows of Allen and Lamar in a 4-game sample were lower than Carr's
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
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I feel the same exact way about you making shite up to win an argument.


You really have no idea what I’m talking about when it comes to gaslighting do you? Lol. Sure if it makes your day. I made shite up - you win. Shocker- I just havr this undeniable hate for Carr- that makes more sense to you than me logically thinking hes just not that good of a QB.

You can go back to gaslighting other posters by saying they’re making shite up, they’re crying, emotional or mad. And then feel like you won the argument because of it.

quote:

You’ve gone nuclear melt. Good Lord.


Never stop the gaslighting my friend with largely female tendencies.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:22 pm to
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I am making excuses for Carr being good some games and bad some games as back by statistics and wins and losses. Hands up, you got me


Are there QBs who don’t have bad games?

Again, Lamar and Allen this year:

4 best - 89.9
4 worst - 46.2

That is Josh Allen.


4 best - 91.5
4 worst - 55.9

Lamar.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:23 pm to
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You can go back to gaslighting other posters by saying they’re making shite up, they’re crying, emotional or mad. And then feel like you won the argument because of it.


It hasn’t really been an argument. Just you screaming that Carr is a loser.

What Gyno is doing right now would be an argument.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:25 pm to
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Are there QBs who don’t have bad games? Again, Lamar and Allen this year: 4 best - 89.9 4 worst - 46.2 That is Josh Allen. 4 best - 91.5 4 worst - 55.9 Lamar.


Let me respond to you to this post as you would.

“Stop being an emotional pussy who’s always angry spewing stupid untrue stats. Man you’re on some nuclear melt. I just call this shite out like I see it. You would understand me if you weren’t so angry.”

How’d I do?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:27 pm to
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How’d I do?


Very melty. On brand for you it seems.



Also, what I posted are actual facts. Not opinions that I claim to be facts.

Just for future reference.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Just you screaming that Carr is a loser.


You can’t scream on a post. You can assume someone is screaming. I stated had Carr has losing seasons- you assumed I stated he was a loser.

Saying im screaming- gaslighting again lol
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Very melty. On brand for you it seems.


Gaslighting. I literally just copied words in your posts to me.

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Also, what I posted are actual facts. Not opinions that I claim to be facts. Just for future reference.


Gaslighting again. “Hey posters what I post are facts but this other guy posts opinions- hes not a good poster.” You do read your posts before you hit submit right?

This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:32 pm to
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Gaslighting. I literally just copied words in your posts to me.


I never called you a pussy. You’re making shite up again.

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Gaslighting again. “Hey posters what I post are facts but this other guy posts opinions- hes not a good poster.” You do read your posts before you hit submit right?


QBR: Verifiable. Stat. Fact.
Player got coach fired: Not verifiable. Opinion.

Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:33 pm to
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What Gyno is doing right now would be an argument.


You’re right he is arguing. He also someone who doesn’t immediately call posters emotional, angry, they’re crying, melting because hes not someone who enjoys winning arguments by gaslighting people. You on the other hand enjoy these things.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:35 pm to
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You’re right he is arguing. He also someone who doesn’t immediately call posters emotional, angry, they’re crying, melting because hes not someone who enjoys winning arguments by gaslighting people. You on the other hand enjoy these things.


His very first post ITT:

quote:

No one buys the highs more than a Carr stan.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:36 pm to
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I never called you a pussy. You’re making shite up again.


Haha caught that one? At least you admit you called me everything else. Progress.

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QBR: Verifiable. Stat. Fact. Player got coach fired: Not verifiable. Opinion.


Organization reason for Carr losing seasons: not verifiable opinion
DA reason for Carr losing: not verifiable- opinion
Judging my emotional state on every post: not verifiable- opinion
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:37 pm to
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His very first post ITT: quote: No one buys the highs more than a Carr stan.


I stand corrected hes just like you then.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Organization reason for Carr losing seasons: not verifiable opinion DA reason for Carr losing: not verifiable- opinion Judging my emotional state on every post: not verifiable- opinion


I’m not the only claiming I’ve only posted facts. You’re the only one doing that.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
11544 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:42 pm to
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I’m not the only claiming I’ve only posted facts. You’re the only one doing that.


Man your whole argument is gaslighting. Do you realize this? You constantly distort the truth to get people away from the actual argument.

I give more credit to MSState. May not agree with him but he doesn’t try to gaslight people to win an argument.

Just stick to the argument without calling people emotional or saying their melting. You think you’re acting level headed but its just personal attacks mixed in with an argument. What is the point of that?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:46 pm to
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Just stick to the argument without calling people emotional or saying their melting. You think you’re acting level headed but it’s just personal attacks mixed in with an argument. What is the point of that?


Again, the first personal attack in our interaction was you calling me a “frickin idiot”. All because I made the factual post that Carr took the Raiders to the playoffs twice.

Yet you think you’re the rational one in this situation?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 2:59 pm to
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Again, Lamar and Allen this year:

4 best - 89.9
4 worst - 46.2

That is Josh Allen.


4 best - 91.5
4 worst - 55.9

Lamar.




Josh Allen is on pace for 488 rush yards and 8 rush TDs

Lamar is on pace for 903 rush yards and 3 rush TDs

Surely you thought about this.Their teams are a combined 16-6. Can Derek Carr’s legs compensate for his shite game?

I can’t keep going back and forth buddy. This thread sucks

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47380 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:05 pm to
They’re clearly the better QBs. I’m just pointing out that “Carr has bad games” isn’t really a good argument. All QBs have bad games.

In fact, it seems Carr’s floor is a good bit higher than those guys. We already know his ceiling isn’t as high, which is also shown.
This post was edited on 11/20/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33635 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:10 pm to
Wow this thread is terrible.

Carry on.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73357 posts
Posted on 11/20/24 at 3:12 pm to
frick

Carr’s floor is a good bit higher than Lamar and Allen? What? Their “bad” games are mitigated by their ability to run. Bad games are few and far between. They are in the MVP race every season and their win % is probably top 3-5 over the last few years.

There has to be more mid QBs other than Brees, Lamar and Allen that y’all can form an argument around to help make a case for Carr. Maybe like Dak or Stafford or Goff or Russ?

And Carr has an 11 year career littered with more bad than good. It’s not a difficult argument to back up
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