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Brees' stolen 2009 MVP
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:51 am
Brees had more touchdowns (34v33), way less interceptions (16 vs 11), higher completion % (NFL record 70.6 v 68.8), higher YPA (8.54 v 7.88) and a much higher QB rating (109.6 v 99.9).
Mannings MVP was pretty comparable to Brees' #'s this year
Mannings MVP was pretty comparable to Brees' #'s this year
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:17 am
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:55 am to TigerBait1127
Thanks for the reminder. Fits right in with the weather today.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 9:58 am to TigerBait1127
manning did it with Jim Caldwell, we did it with Sean Payton. Look that was pretty much the nail on the head, Peyton continued success nearly by himself that year with colts.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:08 am to TigerBait1127
Didn't you hear? All of Brees stats are padded
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:10 am to TigerBait1127
Drew had 11 interceptions, but I agree with your post. He was robbed.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:13 am to CocoLoco
New Orleans Saints had the 6th best Rushing Offense that year.
Anyone care to guess Indy's?
Anyone care to guess Indy's?
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:17 am to Chad504boy
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Anyone care to guess Indy's?
they were last. They were also considered to have a much better defense than the Saints going into the Super Bowl
He also had WAY shittier numbers. Bad enough in comparison to Brees to make any arguments laughable.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:21 am to TigerBait1127
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They were also considered to have a much better defense than the Saints going into the Super Bowl
I disagree with much better especially with the volume of TOs we had.
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He also had WAY shittier numbers.
way shittier, come on.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:22 am to TigerBait1127
This thread is giving me a homer boner.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:24 am to Chad504boy
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I disagree with much better especially with the volume of TOs we had.
i did too, but the talking heads and media (who actually vote on it) did not
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way shittier, come on.
in comparison to brees, yes. 5 more interceptions
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:26 am to TigerBait1127
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in comparison to brees, yes. 5 more interceptions
far from way shittier... if thats the case, drew brees should be dog shite compared to RG3 this year.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:28 am to Chad504boy
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far from way shittier... if thats the case, drew brees should be dog shite compared to RG3 this year.
RG3 made the pro bowl over him because of ints
Rogers won the MVP over brees because of ints (deservedly so IMO)
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:28 am to TigerBait1127
It was SOLELY because they started 14-0 and we only started 13-0.
However, the fact that it is Manning and not small market Brees did play a role I'm sure...
However, the fact that it is Manning and not small market Brees did play a role I'm sure...
Posted on 1/10/13 at 10:30 am to TigerBait1127
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RG3 made the pro bowl over him because of ints
Rogers won the MVP over brees because of ints (deservedly so IMO)
There was an 8 gap difference with aaron that year. Dude threw 6 pics that year over 500 attempts, incredible.
look, arguments all over. i get it all.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:04 am to Chad504boy
Manning was 6 quarters away from a perfect season. He had a lead on the Jets and only had to play a shitty Bills team.
He had it until Curtis Painter shite it away.
He had it until Curtis Painter shite it away.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:10 am to Chad504boy
Brees has gotten robbed for the MVP atleast 3 times (and you could argue every year except for Bradys 50 td season) since he's been in New Orleans. Drew Brees broke almost ever QB record last year (including some he owned) and they give MVP to Rodgers based on passer rating and Low int marks. What passer rating doesn't factor is sacks taken. Brees 170 games played sacked 234 times. Rodgers 85 games played sacked 211 times. This season he was sacked 51 times and Brees has never been sacked more than 30. When your not taking sacks the possibility of Ints increases. Sacks should be a factor in passer rating because the best QBs in League today get rid of the football.
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:15 am to klew5
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Brees has gotten robbed for the MVP atleast 3 times (and you could argue every year except for Bradys 50 td season)
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:24 am to TigerBait1127
Blame the media for there love affair with all things Manning. I for one is waiting for Manning to choke again in the playoffs. Don't think he can last but another season. Most of his passes are ducks that find it's mark. Arm strength want last much longer
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:24 am to TigerBait1127
Although he was most definitely robbed in 2009, the consolation prize wasn't too shabby:
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:35 am to TigerBait1127
Yeah, it is a sham. Since that year the MVP is meaningless. Sportswriters should not determine the MVP, HOF, etc. they shouldn't be involved in any process of the sort. Anyway, people will look back and see brees' superior year and his head o head win against manning in the biggest game
They'll also look back and see that brees had a better run from 06-forward
3 5,000 yard seasons. Out of 6 such seasons
Back to back (2013 to back?) 40 TD years
Single season completion percentage
Single season yards
It just makes it so bad that we got completely screwed this year. frick 3 G for that, and for not being able I stop Alex smith from driving the length if the field
They'll also look back and see that brees had a better run from 06-forward
3 5,000 yard seasons. Out of 6 such seasons
Back to back (2013 to back?) 40 TD years
Single season completion percentage
Single season yards
It just makes it so bad that we got completely screwed this year. frick 3 G for that, and for not being able I stop Alex smith from driving the length if the field
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