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re: BPA vs "need"
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:13 pm to moneyg
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:13 pm to moneyg
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ok. Which LB should we have taken in the 2nd?
Navarro Bowman??
he'd easily be at least our 3rd or 4th best LB on this team
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nd will instead try to fill the gap in free agency or from within.
except we really cant sign any FA's and all our guys within are Special team guys
i dont think its too much to ask to find a LB that we could feel confident with coming into a game and not say "oh here comes that special team guy whatshisface". There were definitely several LB's that fit that mold in this draft even in the middle rounds
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Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:14 pm to moneyg
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Which LB should we have taken in the 2nd?
Sergio Kindle?
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:15 pm to GynoSandberg
kindle would have been interesting
and i've changed my stance on his possible knee surgery...our other picks in rounds 1-3 won't be starting next year, so we can't hold this against kindle
and i've changed my stance on his possible knee surgery...our other picks in rounds 1-3 won't be starting next year, so we can't hold this against kindle
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
Could Kindle be a 4-3 olb though?
Especially after the knee
Especially after the knee
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:17 pm to eyeran
oh i wasn't making that statement about him being a LB...just as a pass rusher. i know gyno meant LB, but i think kindle is a legit pass rusher. i don't care if that's from LB or DE
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i think kindle is a legit pass rusher.
exactly.
what we really need IMO, regardless where he's coming from
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:20 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm not huge on Derrick Johnson, but I'd have to imagine that if they can't get value for Jammal Brown, KC would at least consider Bushrod. They didn't draft an OT at all. Not sure what kind of longterm contract DJ is looking for, though, but if we keep Jammal for one more year, you may as well have DJ starting instead of Bushrod backing up.
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:21 pm to THRILLHO
i can't imagine johnson's price tag could be that great
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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one youtube video has him getting burned a few times and giving up a good # of passes over the middle
So you forget about the 50 highlights where he is dominant, and point out the couple of plays where he gave up a first down? STFU.
Again, it's one thing to argue for a pass-rusher as the pick, but now you are just showing you don't know what the frick you are talking about.
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i read up on him
good athlete. mediocre player. very inconsistent
so you are just rehashing what someone else said, any original thoughts?
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree.
Fwiw, G. Williams was on WWL pre draft on Thursday and he said he was looking for a guy that could turn a run with TEs to replace Fujita. He mentioned Fujita's height helping him in that area. I thought pass d was Fujita's weak spot but i wont argue with Williams.
Watching Arounx he looks great turning and running in pass D. If we dont pick anybody else up it wouldnt surprise me if he was our starter week 1. Its not like he has stiff competitition
Fwiw, G. Williams was on WWL pre draft on Thursday and he said he was looking for a guy that could turn a run with TEs to replace Fujita. He mentioned Fujita's height helping him in that area. I thought pass d was Fujita's weak spot but i wont argue with Williams.
Watching Arounx he looks great turning and running in pass D. If we dont pick anybody else up it wouldnt surprise me if he was our starter week 1. Its not like he has stiff competitition
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:24 pm to LSUFreek
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So you forget about the 50 highlights where he is dominant,
where was he "dominant" ?
a dominant CB has no highlights b/c he isn't thrown on
that last video you posted is exactly what i said. he plays well, and then he plays shitty. he's inconsistent
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but now you are just showing you don't know what the frick you are talking about.
i said he was inconsistent
you posted a video of him being inconsistent
i don't even know what you're trying to say anymore
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:25 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
Navarro Bowman??
he'd easily be at least our 3rd or 4th best LB on this team
The guy went at the end of the 3rd. I think that's a great example of a reach...and drafting for need.
Personally, I think reaching for a guys whose rated 30 picks lower than where you draft is a recipe for disaster.
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except we really cant sign any FA's and all our guys within are Special team guys
We can sign anyone who is cut from their team. Finding a veteran LB who can replace Fujita is a reasonable expectation.
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:25 pm to eyeran
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he said he was looking for a guy that could turn a run with TEs to replace Fujita. He mentioned Fujita's height helping him in that area.
fujita was born to play SLB
6-5 and 4.55 speed
he lost a step the past couple years. i wasn't mad that he left (esp for the price), but we need a replacement
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Watching Arounx he looks great turning and running in pass D.
he's short though i thought
i just don't see how our coaches can be solid in him. how much has he been able to show?
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:27 pm to GynoSandberg
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exactly.
what we really need IMO, regardless where he's coming from
We have Alex Brown and Will Smith at DE who are both legit pass rushers.
Our needs were a stout DT and an OLB.
This post was edited on 4/24/10 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he plays well, and then he plays shitty. he's inconsistent
I could have sworn that's exactly what Sean Payton said in his press conference about Robinson. Wait. What? Crap.
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:28 pm to moneyg
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The guy went at the end of the 3rd. I think that's a great example of a reach...and drafting for need.
not exactly a great measure on being a "reach"
every team has different draft strategies. Not everyone is drafting BPA.
their was a huge run on WRs and DBs that pushed him down the board.
he was a guy with an 2nd round grade. It actually would have been good value
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:29 pm to moneyg
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We have Alex Brown and Charles Grant at DE who are both legit pass rushers.
charles grant was cut
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:30 pm to Lester Earl
And Alex Brown isn't a good pass rusher. Other than that, the post was spot on.
Posted on 4/24/10 at 2:31 pm to moneyg
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We have Alex Brown and Charles Grant at DE who are both legit pass rushers.
meh
i know you meant smith, not grant
they're "hard working" types. not speed rushers who instill fear in gameplans
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