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re: Attorney for Smith family / Attorney for Hayes l Press Conference Recap
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:10 am to lsupride87
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single lawyer would agree with you
Yeah, I'm sure all you internet lawyers would never agree with me. But I would be willing to wager a large sum of money, that you can not find one case in Louisiana where someone shot someone else in the back, and was found not guilty by claiming self defense.
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:11 am to LNCHBOX
No if you want it go find it. It was in every thread that hayes is a TPOS before any facts came out
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:11 am to BigBrod81
quote:Hayes having the gun on his person does nothing to make him the initial aggressor in itself. Nothing. That is the point diat is making that if flying over your head
Smith, he had to have had his gun on his person with both patries being out of their vehicles. This isn't rocket science dude.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:11 am to Nado Jenkins83
I didn't ask for an example dumbass, you did.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:11 am to lsufan31
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Yeah, I'm sure all you internet lawyers would never agree with me. But I would be willing to wager a large sum of money, that you can not find one case in Louisiana where someone shot someone else in the back, and was found not guilty by claiming self defense.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:12 am to lsupride87
lsufan31,
According to you, this isnt self defense correct? It is murder
According to you, this isnt self defense correct? It is murder
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So someone comes up to you with a gun, threatening to kill you. They drop their gun and turn around to pick it up, and POW, you finally had time to draw your gun and shoot them in the back.
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:13 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:13 am to Nado Jenkins83
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No if you want it go find it. It was in every thread that hayes is a TPOS before any facts came out
So no possible way that both were POSs? It's either one or the other?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:13 am to lsufan31
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Yeah, I'm sure all you internet lawyers would never agree with me. But I would be willing to wager a large sum of money, that you can not find one case in Louisiana where someone shot someone else in the back, and was found not guilty by claiming self defense.
I already pointed you to a case where someone shot a teenager in the back of the head who didnt even have a weapon and didnt even go to trial.
here is a case where someone shot another teenager in the head who was in a vehicle fleeing the scene and again had no weapon and he also was not charged.
LINK
so you simply dont know what you are talking about.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:15 am to diat150
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August 05, 2014 Is it legal to shoot someone in the back? You've seen it a hundred times. Two men walk to the center of a dusty street, guns slung low on their leg. They stand about 20 paces apart, staring each other down with a steely gaze. Their fingers twitch in anticipation. Then it happens. The bad guy goes for his gun. He draws and fires with an evil smile on his face. But wait! The good guy isn't hurt. He's faster on the draw and a better shot. The bad guy missed and he's the one who's shot. Slowly and dramatically, he falls to the ground. The good guy, with a look of humility and remorse, holsters his gun, gets on his horse, and rides off into the sunset. Watch this clip from Silverado. The only difference here is that the Sheriff is the bad guy. Yes, you've seen this a hundred times. But only in the movies. In real life, it never happens this way. People don't square off facing each other to shoot it out fair and square. Actual shootings are fast, violent, and chaotic. A lot of shots miss. And when people do get shot, it could be anywhere on the body, including the back. In the movies, shooting someone in the back is a hanging offense … because, we're told, good guys never, ever shoot people in the back. But in a life-or-death situation, shooting someone in the back is pretty common. Cops do it. And ordinary citizens do it too. There are two questions here: Is it legal to shoot someone in the back? Is the location of a shot cause for legal concern?
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The first question is easy to answer. Assuming you otherwise have a right to defend yourself or others, it really doesn't matter where you shoot someone. The law doesn't specify that you must only shoot center mass in the front like you do at the shooting range when you're shredding paper targets.
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The bottom line is that real-life violence is dynamic. People move quickly and the events unfold so fast, it's hard for the brain to keep up. So, for example, if you're being attacked and draw your gun to shoot in self defense, there's no guarantee where the bullets will end up
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:16 am to BigBrod81
quote:so smith made a threat about having a gun during an argument before he even knew that hayes did? is that what you are saying... rocket science indeed.
"frick you, I have a gun too." If that witness from the video heard that, I'm sure Smith did too. For Hayes to have the drop on Smith, he had to have had his gun on his person with both patries being out of their vehicles. This isn't rocket science dude.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:17 am to lsufan31
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Yeah, I'm sure all you internet lawyers would never agree with me. But I would be willing to wager a large sum of money, that you can not find one case in Louisiana where someone shot someone else in the back, and was found not guilty by claiming self defense.
Ive posted 2. do you need my paypal?
both were unarmed also... do I get extra credit?This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 9:18 am
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:18 am to diat150
Can you link those? I'd like to read them
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:19 am to diat150
quote:There are countless scenarios in which you can shoot someone in the back and be self defense. The guy is a moron for suggesting otherwise
diat150
That is not me in anyway saying it is certain for this case though
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:20 am to WhoDat37
quote:Diat will link them. But I would like to ask why does the theory seem so difficult for you to understand? Someone can have their back to you and your life is still in immediate and imminent danger. Countless scenarios
Can you link those? I'd like to read them
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:21 am to LNCHBOX
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So no possible way that both were POSs? It's either one or the other?
Already said both were
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:22 am to lsupride87
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But I would like to ask why does the theory seem so difficult for you to understand?
Where did I say that theory was difficult to understand?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:22 am to LNCHBOX
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So no possible way that both were POSs? It's either one or the other?
Not once have I ever seen someone be so wrong and still fight it like you man. I tip my hat to you for being so persistent and never giving up though
Everyone has proven you wrong on something and then you stray off to something that wasn't even close to what y'all were arguing about and then start arguing with someone else until you lose that one too
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:23 am to Nado Jenkins83
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its easily seen in the attacking of Hayes past.
When Smiths is worse
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:24 am to Nado Jenkins83
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Already said both were
But you're too busy to point me to all these people claiming Smith is an innocent angel. I have seen no once say that recently, so I'd like for you to provide an instance since it is so easy according to you.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 9:24 am to diat150
And neither one of those were claiming self defense, so.....try again. Stand your ground is different than self defense.
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